Ridiculous gas prices

Hellcat Carrie /

I've never been so glad to own a moped. I read that gas prices are supposed to shoot up to $3 per gallon on the West Coast and in the Midwest this summer. Wow. I might have to pay a whopping $2 to fill up my little tank! I'm gonna be laughing as I zoom past those stupid SUV driving yuppies on my little ped - all the way to the bank!

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SteelToad /

The SUV is dead. My neighbor just got one and it gets 11 mpg in town.

I laugh :))

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Hey HC:

How much do you have to pay for gas now??? In K-zoo?? Last Sunday am, in Manassas, VA (8 miles from the house) I paid 1.649/gal for regular (filled my car & ped can). On Sat night, 64 miles farther south, in Orange,VA, I paid 1.629/gal for premium filled my other pride and joy (Hey, give me a break I've got an old vette -- just to go fast when I want to). The at the station closest to my house (5 miles away & run by Jesse James) it was 1.899/gal for premium & 1.789/gal for regular.

Have a great weekend, Swarming & Destroying on you ped, while saving big $$$

rich

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Gas is around $1.87/gal for regular in the Chicago area--the highest in the nation I believe..

Not to offend anyone, but those who have been buying the big gas-guzzler SUV's and such are part of the reason that prices are so high--it's called "supply and demand"--what will probably happen is that we'll go back to the time when everyone started buying more fuel-efficient cars and subsequently the demand for gas when down, and so did the prices. We can only hope. Meanwhile, we'll be enjoying our 50+ mpg mopeds and laughing all the way...

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hey i jsiut went to the gas station today and got gas... its 1.77 for a gallon in springfield,va. and there are plenty of ediot here with BIG cars that scare the crap outta me. well i hope yuppys are really rich. hahaha hope to see almost none on the road.... suckers!

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Chris Robertson /

Here in Canada's Capital gas costs about CDN$0.85/litre which converts to US$2.08/gallon. It costs even more in Montreal and Toronto. Don't feel too bad!

Chris.

Call to Arms

As any Army knows, desperate times call for desperate measures.

Be ready for the obligatory local TV news to show up at a gas station to talk to those sorry SUV owners as they fill their tanks and empty their wallets.

Pull up on the old 'ped and gloat about life in the 100MPG lane.

Time to show the world not to sneer at the moped!

Jim C.

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Reeperette /

There's also something else that has been affecting fuel prices for the past two years, and if you do the research I have - it's awful damn suspicious.

Take a good hard spin with a couple of different newswire sources, and cull out anything to do with fuel supplies - you will notice a HUGE spike in petroleum related "Accidents" right around the seasonal peak for consumption.

And some of them, they just smelly fishy, like a Tanker trucks wiping out into total infernos, but suprisingly, no injuries, not even to the driver ?

And six of those kind of incidents in 10 days ? this during the week that our local pipeline up here had a cough,cough, uhhh...Accident ?

Or the refinery fire almost exactly 12 hours after an interview with an oil company rep who said prices would not rise unless such an unlikely thing happened ?

And yet said fire was in the perfect place NOT to cause any real damage to the stockpiles, yet substantive enough to justify panic pricing ?

Do your own investigating, you will be surprised at what you find.

One thing for sure - the Oil Companies do NOT want alcohol-enhanced fuels, because that is the first step towards alcohol fuel, a move that would put them out of business....other than for political reasons and maintaining thier monopoly, there is no logical reason to run cars on an irreplaceable petroleum product when we have such a substantive grain surplus that could be converted to alcohol fuel with a minimum of hassle.

Also, there is bio-diesel, which can be made from the same oils used to fill fry vats, combined with a small amount of methanol - it creates both a Diesel Fuel, useable by ANY Diesel engine, and Glycerin-base soap, and there is no waste product beyond that created.

Henry Ford chose to run his engine on gasoline cause it was essentially, at the time - toxic waste, a waste product of kerosene production, the only reason we continue using it is because the oil companies have the political power to buy off the Gov't supposed to protect us from such things, and ensure thier own monopoly.

For the record, (and I checked) - it's still legal to run your own still, if you are putting the product thereof into your fuel tank, instead of drinking it or attempting to sell it.

The problem at this point with Alcohol conversion isn't doing it - it's getting the alcohol...any thoughts on solving THAT problem ?

-Ree

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Don't forget, the oil companies have been saying for years they don't have enough refining capacity and that's why the price keeps going up. It's the old supply and demand thing. If that's the reason why do you suppose they don't build more capacity? The oil companies are reaping record profits so why should they kill the goose.

Of course having oil men for president and vice president is not going to help any either. Chaney reported something like 36 million in income for 2000, from his oil interests. Don't expect them to have any sympathy for the consumers of their products. Yes, I know they have put their holdings in blind trusts while they are in office, but they won't be in office forever so they still have interest in keeping the money flowing to their trust funds so they can have it when they are civilians again.

At least we can cheat them a little bit with our 'peds.

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...Yup... I voted for Bush to keep more personal freedoms intact... But I knew the price was having people who will support big business interests almost to a T...so that they can screw us over better.

We need a party somewhere in between...

With

No intentions to limit personal freedoms (and even give some back maybe)

No intentions to make all the laws favor business profits at the expense of the individual...(especially for necessities like energy, transportation, food, medicine, and health care)

And make people take responsibility for their own actions.

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Ataristyle /

Gas prices here (Chicago area, near Peggy) are $1.89/gal for 87 octane. Near my aunts condo near Lake Michigan the gas is more expensive. I thought I was getting bad gas mileage on my Tomos Targa LX. so I started to watch when I filled up the tank. It was at 942 miles when I last filled up and is still running with 1034 miles on it. Its right up near the 100mpg. I'll have to fill up soon but I'll wait until I run out for an accurate reading. I drive at full speed most of the time but accelerate at half throttle(especially before the bike shifts into 2nd). Once the bike is in second gear I give it full throttle. I hope there are some good back roads to take to get to your house Peggy. Keep on looking.

Swarm and Destroy!

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Hellcat Carrie /

I believe this is precisely the situation that made mopeds popular in the seventies. We're going for a revival, baby.

swarm and destroy!

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Everytime somebody stops us to ask about our mopeds, especially at the gas stations, gas prices are ALWAYS mentioned and how cheap it is for the moped. If peds were easyer to find, they would make a serious revival.

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Reeperette /

I like to stay topped off, and have a good instinct for how much gas I have left without the need for gauges, and my unit of measue is, of all things - a quarter.

As in how much gas one gets for a quarter, not a quarter tank.

Believe me, it's quite amusing to walk up to the guy in his little kiosk at the gas station, grin, and hand him a quarter, while pointing to yer moped.

The looks on thier faces are definately interesting.

-Ree

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One thing to remember is that this country s once again at the mercy of OPEC (Organization of Oil Producing Countries). They are the reason of the 70's gas shortages. They had the supply and we had the demand. In the late 70's-early 80's we built oil producing facilities in the North Slope of Alaska to get oil at less than OPEC prices. As soon as it became a viable option, OPEC dropped their prices and we dropped our guard. Buying oil from them again, we have not developed our energy independence and again are at their mercy.

What goes around comes around. Our mopeds are relics from that era, but also timely reminders of what people resorted to to fight OPEC.

Swarm On!

Jim C.

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i wouldn't say we're at the mercy of opec, rather ... we're at the mercy of the fact that we (as a society) have developed a profound taste for large, polluting vehicles. in the meantime, we depend on a natural resource that is quickly disappearing.

what gets me is the use of cars for such simple tasts. people drive them a block or two to get cigarettes at the corner store. people drive SEPARATELY to the same place instead of together.

even w/ mopeds, we must admit that we pollute somewhat. i think mopeds are the closest thing to a semi-ludite form of transportation. but even riding a moped one or two blocks is a bit out of hand, when walking is a good alternative.

so don't blame opec. they're just doing what's natural. more people are driving than ever before (and not just in the us, but around the world). meanwhile, there is less oil than ever before (and there will continue to only be less and less). the oil we have left untapped is too expensive to get out. all these things drive prices way way up.

and ... at the same time ... people are driving more and driving gas guzzling suvs.

i think the moped will make a revival. and i think it's the vehicle of the future. but the future moped will use alternative fuels. my brother works on this project as an engineer for cars. problem w/ cars and alternative fuels (e.g. electric cars and such) is the weight of the cars. but a moped is much much lighter ... so i think future mopeds will have engines that run on some hybrid materials.

at least all this is my own opinion.

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Reeperette /

Another thing with Electric cars is thus.

Unless your power is hydroelectric, you are still burning petroleum to create the energy, just one step removed (at the powerplant instead of your tank), and with the energy use curve of most electric cars right now, yer burning MORE of it for the same amount of power.

Dontcha love it when folks don't think things through ?

-Ree

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Chris Robertson /

I love my mopeds, but I'm not going to kid myself about how much they pollute. The reason they stopped importing them into Canada in 1982 is because they no longer met our emission laws. The newer Tomos mopeds are available now, because they run cleaner.

Mile for mile, mopeds are cleaner than cars solely because they don't burn much fuel. Gallon for gallon, however, mopeds (at least the ones from before the 90s) are much worse polluters because they aren't as efficient at burning fuel, and they don't have catalytic converters.

I don't sweat it, however, because it just seems to make more sense to me to leave my 3000lb car at home whenever a 100lb moped will do the trick.

Chris.

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Supply and demand...exactly!!! Why are we now manufacturing the largest passenger vehicles that we ever have? Hell if I know. I mean, I have a gas guzzling hot rod, but it's a recreation thing that I use maybe once a week. I'm talking about those monstrous SUV's! Well, I don't call them SUV's per se because I'd just love to see someone have "sport" or "utility" in one of those $40K Excursions in these old mountain roads around here. Besides that, who's gonna decide how big parking spaces have to be? The people with the money rule the world and those are the one's driving these monoliths. C'est la vis, I can park my ped right smack dab in the middle of a 40 foot parking space too. I pay taxes, therefore I can do it...hee hee. OK, i'm done...

Feeling much better now,

Lane

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when (not if) socialism wins, it will be because the rich will have made everyone sick of their suvs and other vehicles. seatle, prague, montreal ... that's just the tips of the iceberg.

mopeds do pollute, but not nearly as much. we need moped critical mass. clog the roads. raise your fist and yell the old deruti battle cry: "no pasaran!"

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hahaha 3 bucks a gallon, and you people complain....Try coming to the Netherlands @ +/- 5,70 euro a gallon. That would be about 8,30 in dollars......Enjoy your 3 dollars while you still can!

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respond not, a troll is dredging up old posts, fuel is like 2.35 for a gallon here now and I don't complain, do you guys still have premix pumps in Europe? That is sooooo cool!

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Rob @t ATTN! Burrito /

just wanted to thank fred for this:

Author: Fred (---.dialup.globaldsl.net)

Date Posted: 04-27-01 13:51

_

...Yup... I voted for Bush to keep more personal freedoms intact... But I knew the price was having people who will support big business interests almost to a T...so that they can screw us over better.

We need a party somewhere in between...

With

No intentions to limit personal freedoms (and even give some back maybe)

No intentions to make all the laws favor business profits at the expense of the individual...(especially for necessities like energy, transportation, food, medicine, and health care)

And make people take responsibility for their own actions. _

we could certainly use a party sometime inbetween...

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4 bucks a gallon in Montreal.... I'm still laughing though... I can run WOT all day and never even think about the cost...

SUV owner = loser with small penis or hot soccer mom with other penis related issues

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i lollll when people actually have to budget for gas, it'sh theh lulozoidz

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no groms no blasters /

HEY DUDES DID YOU HEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ONE DAY GAS BOYCOTT TO SHOW THOSE OIL COMPANIES WHAT'S WHAT!?

_postin' like it's 2001_

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