I'm sympathetic. All the classifies I find tend to be on the East or West coast, too far away. I finally found a decent price on the Kinetic TFR, new at Egghead.com and bought it ($560) and paid the $125 shipping to my front door (ouch). I will drive a couple of hundred miles for the right deal.. but that's quite a trip if it turns out to be a lemon (worse than advertised). The center of the country is a long ways from everywhere! By the way, the Kinetic came from India via Cosmos Motors of "somewhere in PA" The guy on the phone sounded like some kinda "break your legs" Mofia type. Not very friendly.. but they did send the parts broken in shipping.