MOPED ARMY

I may be reading this incorrectly, but I don't see anything that applies to older vehicles, only new manufacture. Am I missing something?

Ron

We used to have emissions testing too, but only to the standards in effect on the date of manufacture.

Do you see some language in this proposal that I am missing? I only see where it applies to new/future manufacturing of engines.

Ron

I got an alert from a fellow biker who works for the gov't and I'm going to look into it more, apparently, the proposal has been recently updated.

I went to this page (it's not the update):

www.epa.gov/OMS/regs/nonroad/largesi/nrsianpr.txt

what a gigantic pile of governmental dung this page is, but this turd fell out:

section 202 (A) (3) (E)

bottom line, we do not need more government restrictions in our lives, it's bad enough that some states require peds to be registered, insured, inspected, smelled, licked, probed and whatever else the feds want, but emissions, come on.

There must have been a pissed off EPA bigshot stuck in DC traffic (probably a 100 car traffic jam with only 1 person per car) when a smiling mopeder sped by.

What's next, PETA bitchin about my leather tool bag?

When I find more info, I will surely post. F Jackie

gimmie jimmie

heres more on emission testing on bikes:

www.mrf.org/articles/chokehold.html

I doubt if anyone would voluntarily move to India, but if you do, New Delhi has banned the riding of bikes older than 15 yrs.old. This "end of life" law has already been in the works for bikes in Europe which means we can probably expect someone (EPA) to propose it here.

Ron, I can assure you I am in no panic over this situation, I'm just spreading the word, man. So riders don't wake up someday and say "How in the hell did that happen?"

Maybe cars and trucks are junked when they get old, but certainly not bikes.

You should know that by visiting this site and seeing the posts regarding all the older bikes that the guys are restoring. My mopeds are 21 yrs.old and my Harley is 37 yrs.old and they are in still in excellent condition and I'll be damned if let the feds fuck with them.

What the heck does that have to with a government making rules against it?

Nothing.

Governments make ineffective (even backfiring) stupid laws all the time.

(heard of utility deregulation in CAL ?)

What you don't know is this is actually a backdoor attempt in particular sponsored by the Sierra Club to close as much public land to any useage by the public as they can... Particularly off-road vehicles of any type (including bicycles in many cases).

They threw in street legal bikes to make it look more legitimate.

Instead using specifically banning the target vehicles from target land... they figured they could make emissions levels so stringent that almost no vehicles can pass them.. and thereby accomplish their goals.

And if you are considering if these rules would be "fair".... Consider this..

Large trucks, buses, all airplanes, and all boats have NO emissions limits.

And a motorcycle in general put out a LOT less pollution than your average large truck, or large airplane, or large boat.. Wouldn't you agree?

Now consider how many motorcycles you saw today...1?

Now consider how many large trucks you saw today...200?

Now say a large truck puts out 25 times the pollution as a bike.

200 x 25 = 5000 times as much pollution from large trucks than motorcycles (& peds).

Hmmmmmm... And yet the Government wants to put more restrictions on bikes?

Hmmmm... Do you get the feeling that the gov is trying to stab us in the back for some reason?

E-mail your favorite unrepresentative jackass and tell him (them) you don't want it.

It's supposed to be government for the people... Not government for special interest and lobbyists.