Re: ridin doulble dirty and wasted in sf

Dustin Foley /
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motobrokane, you do make some valid points... we do take a lot of liberties on the road, ie: running signs, speeding etc. i think that kits have led mopeds down a very slippery slope. 70mph can certainly kill you, just like running a red light on a stock bike can kill you. i have seen some really really dangerous stuff on rides and during rallies, and many people have expressed concerns about the path that these activities are leading us to. it is my hope that we can continue to try and keep each other in check during pack riding, just like real bikers do, to make sure that no one is endangering everyone else. look at how that filmer in kalamazoo got flamed for standing in the middle of traffic to get some footage. i really do worry about everyone, and i hope that we can remain somewhat injury free. i also worry about how our actions impact other drivers. i experienced this first hand the other night in sf... we were following dom with the car after her headlight burned out. we were turning around a corner when we got blasted on the left and right simultaneously by two other mopeds. it caught my wife off guard and she almost swerved towards one moped to avoid the other. i forget sometimes that although i've been riding mopeds for 12 years and i feel like i've got my skills on lockdown, there are tons of drivers on the road that don't know how to anticipate or compensate for our maneuvering.

personally i've never run from the cops. i've got my shit legal, which is really easy to do, and i try to help everyone that i can to do the same. a moped cannot outrun a cop's radio. there isn't a thing i can do on a moped that is worth a felony evading charge. the only instance of anyone running from the cops on a moped that i can readily recall is when everyone was going to be ticketed for riding on a freeway, some got away, some did not. if i can recall, a bunch of those citations were dismissed by the court anyhow.

i'm not exactly sure what you mean when you ask "what kind of subculture tiptoes around the man?" when was the last time you saw an outlaw biker gang riding with no plates? there is a difference between tiptoeing and playing their game. playing their game includes getting your shit as legal as possible so that you can get away with other stuff. personally, i don't want to give a cop the easy probable cause of no plates attached, or no taillight and open myself up to a vehicle inspection and a trip to the referee to check the hp and displacement of my motor, the decibel level of my exhaust and all of that shit. if you are lucky enough to not have your vehicle crushed, you are looking at a minimum of $3,000 just to get it back out.

i'm not going to try and argue the drunk thing, just know that i do not support riding drunk. it is my hope that people can act responsibly and think of the other people that it impacts. this practice will be around as long as people have access to methods of conveyance and methods of impairment.

people do get tickets everyday and some choose to deal with the consequences, others choose to play to "poor me" card. either way, when someone posts about their escapades, they open themselves up for ridicule and criticism as much as they do encouragement and advice. in this situation, i think there was a little from each column.

i wouldn't exactly say that he's been nailed to a cross, but i will admit that some of us, myself included, may have been a bit carried away. all of this shit has been weighing on my mind for a while and this story just kind of opened the floodgate for me.

of course, no one is going to obey every law, that is just ridiculous, but when you do something that impacts someone else negatively, it is admirable when you can take responsibility and do the right thing. this applies as much for hit and run as it does for running a stop sign and causing an accident.

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