Several years ago, I bought a brand new '03 TFR for $399, and put about 2500 troublefree miles on it in about 3 months, before selling it to buy a Tomos. The seat is junk, I never even tried to use it, there was no way to properly attach it to the moped, so I replaced it with a BMX seatpost and one of those huge wide seats made for an adult trike. Very comfortable. Plus they are the only moped that has highway pegs, which made it even more comfortable. Everybody says the frames are weak, but I was out riding at night, and hit this huge bump, got both wheels about 2' off the ground, then it came back down and made this horrible crunching sound. I just knew I had broke it in half. I rode it back home, parked it in the yard, didn't even bother looking at it, because I was sure it was totaled. The next morning I went out to see how bad it was, and, believe it or not, could not find anything wrong with it. I gave it a really good going over, then took it for a ride, it rode fine, no problems. That happened at around 1000 miles, so I put another 1500 miles on it afterward, never did have any problems. I weigh 200 lbs. I doubt the TFR is designed to carry that much, but it held up fine, unlike an Angel I bought new in '79, which did break in half, well, actually it broke across the frame at the upper rear shock mounts, and I only weighed 170 back then. And I never hit any big bumps with it either. I wouldn't pay $900 for a new one, but I think I got a killer deal on the '03, it was actually cheaper than the crappy '79 Angel POS. Peace, Jerry.