Any vw beetle owners here?

I'm looking at a 69 vw beetle for $2500. Here is the sellers description.

1969 Beetle runs and drives very well. Tires are great, some rust but easily fixed (parts are cheap), mag wheels, new seat covers and dash pad in boxes still. Please email for more information! 1600cc motor not 1300. Good solid floor pan .

I call him and he says that the breaks don't work because they were leaking fluid. That means it would be $50 to tow it to my house, plus the cost to fix the breaks. Is this a good deal? Any idea of how much it would cost to get the breaks fixed? Could I do it my self?

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Re: Any vw beetle owners here?

you might have to replace rusty brake lines which you likely wouldnt be able to do on your own... id say thats alot of $ for that...btw i own a 64 thunderbird i got for the same price...

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offer 2000 and call it a day. r u good with mechanics? if so do it. do not buy it and send it to some mechanic. because he will most likely over charge you. trust me. my dads been a mechanic for 20 years. if you know how to fix it get it.

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I'm looking to learn more about mechanics but don't want to get over my head.

Sorry but,

you will have two happy days of ownership, your first and your last.

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ehh...i see cheap beetles with easier fixes all the time. i say wait it out and something good should come your way CHEAP.

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I'm big into VWs, I've got a '71 bus. VWs are great, they're easy to fix, parts are easy to come by (and are relatively cheap), and they're reliable.

If you can find something with a good body, it's usually worth checking out.

Check out www.thesamba.com it's a great resource for all air cooled VWs

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George Smith /

The brake system on a beetle is so damn simple it is an excellent car to learn how to work on drum brakes... I Replaced every bit of my brakes except for drums without much hassle. The worst thing to replace is floor pans and headliner...least in my opinion

I have a 1971 Super Beetle...

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People interested in an old car seem to fall into one of two groups: Those willing to do some work to get and keep things going, and those who WANT to work on an old heap to get and keep it going.

Which group you fall in will determine how much "Joy of Ownership" you will experience. I'm thinking "Don't Do It".

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George Smith /

An old car is a joy to work on if you enjoy working....

There aren't as many things to go wrong as with newer cars, and they are generally speaking more rewarding to keep running...

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I would say that that is too much. You need to have someone who really knows his or her VWs look a car like that over before you drop big money on a project.

Thesamba is a great place to find a good VW at a good price.

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I've owned 3. The price of decent beetles is going up as the supply goes down. The beetle is probably the most rust prone car ever made. I prefer the swing axle over IRS, '69s were built with both, so see which one it has. The brakes on a beetle are simple in concept, but are frustrating to work on, due the the soft metal used for the fittings. Also, the master cylinder is separate from the fluid reservoir, and can make the brakes hard to bleed. Plan on at least new drums, shoes, wheel cylinders, hardware kit, and probably the rubber lines at each wheel. Also, the BIG nut that holds the rear drum on is a real bear to get off. The torque is some ridiculous number, most torque wrenches don't go that high, just mark it with a file, and put it back the way it was. You will need about a 3' breaker bar to get it off. Things to watch out for are rusted out heater channels (you can't tell if they are rusted or not, without removing the running boards, this is the most important thing, since it's where the body attaches to the pan), bad steering box (expensive), door posts rusted out where the hinges go, a hole in the floor pan under the rear seat on the right side, where the battery is (I've seen VW batteries fall right through the floor), replacing the headliner requires removing and replacing all the windows, clutch and transmission problems, the clutch release bearing seems to be a weak point on most beetles, and will it pass an emissions inspection if you have them where you live. I sold my last beetle for that reason. If you have experience working on other types of cars, forget everything you know, and start over, the beetle is completely different. But they are about the coolest cars ever made. I would love to have a pre '67 beetle or bus. With peace signs all over it of course, Peace. Jerry.

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I.R.E. Mike Pee /

I just bought my first two weeks ago. It is a '63, and it'll be a bit of work before I have it on the road, but not too bad. Got it for $500. She's gonna be black and chromey, and stock 40hp. Just a tiny step up from a moped. It's the only car I've ever bought, and after 2 years of only mopedding, I will really appreciate it.

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There are many, many more things to go wrong. Advanced age brings much more opportunity for use, abuse, neglect and willful destruction. Add in a basic non-avalibility of O.E. quality repair parts for many years. However...

You type as though you are committed to this kind of project. Find one and dive in. Let us know if you soil your armor when polar inertia visits.

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George Smith /

I have one :P Had one for years :P

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George Smith /

lol my beetle isn't a restore project but a running driving ugly ass daily driver...Parts availability sucks locally but ebay kicks ass. Mine sat for almost 2 decades and I was amazed at how little it needed to get running.. I'm waiting on some carburetor parts right now so I can use it once again instead of my gas guzzling jeep. The drivers down here scare my ass too much to where I won't drive my peds 30 miles a day to get to work... I do have to adjust the valves now though after driving it a few thousand miles after sitting... And the Carb part I needed was just a new float needle mine was fubar due to age... So I'm just gonna rebuild a carb throw it in and then rebuild current one for future...

Will say this on the brakes...The new master cylinders do not have the same pedal play as old ones so you have to adjust the brake pedal rod a bit to get em right afterward... Once you get them right though they are nice...That was a bitch to figure out..

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Mike Monigold /

Over the years I've had 3 VW Beetles - a 1961, 1963 and 1972 Super. Did lots of work on all of them. Bought a book "back in the day" called Idiots Guide to Volkswagon Repair" and that helped lots.

The main problem I had was in winter. Here in Michigan we do get some cold weather. I'll never forget driving and scraping frost off the INSIDE of the windshield. Still... I did love the little bastards.

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Same problem only in reverse here in AZ. No A/C. Some guy who works at the grocery store I go to has what looks like an early '60s bug, it's black, with a wood slatted roof rack, red wheels, wide whitewalls, and the little chrome VW caps. The paint is in bad shape, but that's part of what I like about it. Kinda like a rat rod. I could have sworn I saw a for sale sign in the window a few months ago. If I ever see it again, and he doesn't want $10,000, I'm gonna buy the thing. Peace. Jerry.

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Downhill Harvey (OFMC) /

You'll love the Bug. I was bitten at 15. Parts availability? Have read a Hot YW'S magazine? Every part on a Bug is still being made (except '57 and earlier). The gland nut holding on the rear drum isn't difficult either. In the book "How to keep your VW alive, a guide for the complete idiot" there's a formula to use. Your weight and the proper length breaker bar is all you need to get proper torque on the nut. Valve adjustments and oil changes (no filter) must be made at the 3000 mile interval, I recomend 2000. The engine must be stone cold (I did mine in the morning), for adjusting solid valves. If you learn and love to adjust valves, it's fun trying to make all the valves to sound just perfect. And a seperate brake fluid resevoir is no problem. Make sure you get the factory Robert Bently repail manual (It'll be orange) right away. No other manual will do, except in addition to. Your first winter, head for some snow and have some slippy slidey fun. Powerslides in a Bug in the snow, possible only in snow, is a blast!

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I have a 1961 Beetle in pretty decent shape, and a 1960 Transporter (bus) that I adore.

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Update: I called him and asked about the heater channels and he didn't know what they were like. Also mentioned that he has an all new interior waiting to be installed, seat covers, pad, and dash. Talked him down to $2200, If I find anything too bad when I go look at it, I will try to go lower.

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And old heap? VW's are becoming some of the most sought after cars. It's getting harder to find a decent one to restore.I've been into VW's since 1990 and built numerous cars.Besides,one built right will blow the doors off damn near anything on the road.See pic.

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Inch Pincher II

The infamous Inch Pincher II

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One my old bugs

I built.1915 dual 44's

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Rabbit powered baja

Water cooled Rabbit ,4x6 rear arms, 4" longer fronts, 8" wider beam, front end pulled out 6".And on and on.

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1990? Then you must know about Gene Berg. I met Gene, his wife Dee, and his son Clyde, at Firebird Raceway in Phoenix, AZ, in the early '90s, not to long before he died. I actually got to turn a wrench on the "Bergmobile", the family drag race car. I still have the Gene Berg shifter from my last bug. You are right, a well built bug will blow the doors off most of those "ricer'' cars. Peace. Jerry.

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I agree on the Bently manual, as well as the idiot book. That guy John Muir knew what he was talking about, and he was my type. I don't like formulas, I just used an engraver, and marked the position of the nut before I took it off, and put it back in the same position. And no, the master cylinder isn't a big deal, hardest part is getting to it. It's not way up high and out in the open like they are on most cars. There is an auto parts store chain here called BAP Import Parts, that has almost everything for bugs. Dune Buggies and Hot VWs, and VW Trends are good magazines to get. There is a filter, or rather a screen, that you can clean, the cover is held on by a lot of bolts, you don't have to check it every time you change the oil, unless your engine is really dirty inside, because somebody didn't change the oil. And if your engine leaks oil, and you just can't seem to find where it's coming from, remove the fan shroud (after removing a lot of other parts first, you'll see), and check the grommets on the oil cooler. They are notorious for leaking. Oh, and the fan belt, which is vitally important, because your engine will melt down sooner rather than later if it breaks, is adjusted by using the right assortment of shims, that look like thin washers. Get some. And whatever you do, do not advance the ignition timing beyond what it is supposed to be. Other than a broken fan belt, that is the fastest way to destroy the engine. Peace. Jerry.

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an apt description Jerry...I almost drove my self insane trying to bleed bug brakes....don't forget the damn star wheel adjusters! Arugh! A solid bug is one of the most fun cars ever! How cool is ith that you met Gene Berg!(jealous)

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I'm good friends with Clyde. He recently sold his chop top and is now building a new car. July 20 Fontana Speedway.Clyde Berg Presents The Drag-In. All VW drag racing,car show and swap meet.

$80,000 VW

Yesterday got a phone call from a GOOD friend. He wanted me to go with him to Hollywood to pick up a car.Can't say who's car this is but it does bolong to a famous TV and moive star.The car has been shot for Hot VW's magazine. Those interested,keep your eyes open for the article. Should be out in a few months.TOO COOL!!!!!!! (No it's not Jay Leno) The guy standing behind car is Clyde Berg.

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