pay less for gas

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take it to jeeparmy.com or hummerarmy.com

i dont care about gas. i ride mopeds.

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i do its up to 2 dollars to fill my tank i don't have that kind of money :P

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Don't fill this shit out I live in florida do you really want them drilling off shore and possibly ruining the beaches and killing wildlife. Think!!

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they will kill the wild life some where, o no we might have to see it.

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Hmm, rather than figure out how to heat our homes more efficiently let's just use up every last tree on the continent, while they're just sitting there waiting to be burned, and worry about efficiency later. We've already imperiled our childrens future financial well being with outrageous debt to satisfy our present consumptions. Hmm. Of course that's silly. Everyone knows how pretty and valuable trees are.

But rather than take a hit on that SUV or 300hp turbo diesel or that luxury boat sitting in the driveway, and start thinking a little more sensibly, why don't I petition to drain what little is left of this continents irreplaceable energy stores to at least last out my lifetime of gobstopping breathtaking greedy consumption. Let the next generation worry about it.

I don't see the difference there.

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Temporarily lower gas prices traded for the destruction of the last remaining untouched lands on our soil does nothing to shift away from oil dependency. Drilling for MORE oil instead of creating sustainable technology seems a rather backwards way to decrease consumption. Instead of targeting our earth, these people should be targeting the energy industry who's monopoly and greed has brought us to this point. The fact is, the oil is there already but production is being artificially strangled to raise prices. Even with the limited reserves in North America, when we run out, it's back to importing more oil, so it's a band-aide at best, if you ignore the disastrous global warming altogether. You were warned years ago about this impending crises. It's no ones else's fault that some people didn't listen and are now screwed! Figure it out yourself or fight the real enemy.

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i know what we can do. make cars illegal. everyone use mopeds

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limited reserves in north america?!?!?! wtf the rock mountains is one of the biggest oil deposits in the world, Alaska another, Canada is in the top 10.

If we drilled in the Us rockies we would decrease the oil price by more than half.

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I'm actually hoping the high cost of gas will eventually get some of these huge trucks and SUVs off the road, so it will be safer and more fun to ride my mopeds. Peace. Jerry.

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oh and i have seen a dramatic decrease in traffic in my town (medina, ohio)

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Yes, but we would destroy our environment in the process. Air pollution is temporary, quit making it, and it will go away. The kind of damage done by drilling for oil is permanent. In AZ, we have had millions of acres destroyed by copper mining. It is not pretty. Peace. Jerry.

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I want gas to go way way up. come on 8 bucks a gallon, its stuff like that that will FORCE people to change the way they live.

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They drill off of California, how are the beaches there?

When I worked in the oilfield in the Gulf of Mehico in the early eighties damn near everything was tossed overboard. We used to burn the trash in a steel basket held over the side by one of the cranes and put it out by dunking it into the water. The fish loved it, but there was always a junk slick of un-edibles that just floated away, to the beach. Of course, LA beaches are not and will not ever equal Florida's crystal clear water. It's at the end of the Mighty Mississip.

The last time I worked out there in the mid 90's, you couldn't so much as spit over the side. VERY environmentally conscience. The fines were staggering and the companies were/are all gung ho on clean.

I'm all for renewable energy and efficiency, but our oil dependency is still here and is not going to leave even if we all drive electric cars. It would knock a big chunk out of the gas requirements, but as long as we need plastics, medicines, cosmetics, etc. we still need the stuff.

However, I did see that someone was working on bio-plastics that seemed viable.

From what I remember from my organic chemistry class, if you have a mountain of limestone you can make anything chemically that is made from oil, but that was so long ago that I may have dreamed that up. Make carbide, generate acetelyne and go from there. Just not as cheap as oil.

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I think the best thing to do is to leave gas prices alone, and let some of these morons in their huge vehicles suffer. I am not dependant on cars for transportation, so it won't really affect me directly, but of course it will raise prices of everything you buy that is transported by trucks, and also everything which uses oil as part of it's manufacturing process, like plastic. Peace. Jerry.

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Why does everyone trot out the old semantic corruption of the word 'limited'?

"what do you mean limited?? why there's enough in there at current rates of consumption for the next (pick one) 20, 30, 40, 50, years!!"

good lord. I hear this stuff on cspan daily.

WTF?? Limited means l i m i t e d, however you try to ease the pain for voters listening to your harrangues on the senate floor.

We're talking about eating up what took billions of years to accumulate. In an amount of time that is a comparative blink in the life span of this earth. That's not irresponsible?

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We need to save the stuff that's here under the USA for when the _real_ shortage hits. Otherwise we're going to end up in a big war to get more.

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The simple fact is, there is enough oil to last for an indefinite period of time. But I for one, do not want to see the earth destroyed to get to it. It's time to start seriously developing alternatives. Hydrogen power, that's what we need. Peace. Jerry.

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Considering the fact that we rely on the stuff, should we just leave the rest down there? We're still years away from eliminating the need for driving uses, but that gap is quickly narrowing and by the time we use up all of the oil we will have better batteries, cost effective fuel cells and possibly even a new form of power that runs off of garbage, who knows.

I really don't think the people 50 yrs, or 300yrs from now are going to be relying as much on gasoline as we do now. I may be wrong. I hope not.

NOTE: I'm not saying we need to plunder the rest of what is down there, but I don't see any reason why we shouldn't drill for it. I just don't want to freeze in the dark before someone comes up with the super answer.

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face it, we're going to pull oil until its all gone. at that point is when the technology for an alternative is really gonna start moving.

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Yeah, but just because we still need it right now for our vehicles doesn't mean we should keep driving around in these huge trucks, suvs, and vans. Mopeds, scooters, and tiny little cars like the Smart Car, and the Tata Nano could provide an almost immediate and substantial reduction in our use of gasoline as a fuel. Peace. Jerry.

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Oil will never be "all gone", at least not in the forseeable future, but the cost of drilling for it will make it so expensive that alternative energy sources would actually be cheaper. Besides, I don't think we should be drilling for oil in our own country, it's where we live. Oil fields are not a pretty site, they smell terrible, and they would do long term, possibly permanent environmental damage. Right now, a large part of my once beautiful state is being destroyed by residential and commercial development, and it's absolutely disgusting. Peace. Jerry.

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I agree with both of ya'll. We are seeing a tech move, which I hope doesn't end up like the previous ones when oil became cheap again and all of the special projects got shelved.

I've never been a big vehicle kind of person. The better than the Jones thing doesn't do anything for me.

I love the idea of hydro-power, but until I can figure out how to get a dam and water turbine on my ped, I'm shit outta luck.

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so jerry, we should push oil drilling onto other, less beautiful countries, right?

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Fools, we don't have enough refineries to process the oil we already have. Besides this is capitalism, now that the oil companies know what the market will bear, why should they lower gas prices even if the oil is cheaper. If we had a Communist govt. this would work as the oil, and refineries would be state owned, but then the price of fuel would be irrelevant anyway as the fuel would be rationed per your projected needs and the rest would be sold to other countries to line the pockets of govt. officials. I have no doubt that we will perforate every square inch of land we can before we even think about acting responsibly. This weekend I'm going to drive my 1974 class "A" RV across the state. I will probably spend around $300 in fuel costs but you will never hear me complain. I have chosen to drive this ancient behemoth and I will pay the price. Otherwise I don't treat my automobile as a toy and use it sparingly. That's what mopeds are for.

One last thought: Who the Hell is Steve? No pics, an ambigous location, "i like mopeds" for a bio? Yeah this isn't a bot. Steve your organization is nothing but a pen of bourgeoisie pigs wallowing in their own capitalist filth. Your working class will bury you!

"They became so many fetters to be burst asunder. They were burst asunder!"

-Karl Marx

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on a less revolutionary note the higher gas prices have resulted in a marked increase in motorcycles. This is very good as people will be expecting small 2 wheeled vehicles in traffic.

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It's all relative. If the well is on your property and you're in the unit and it's in your front yard and you're raking in a few extra 10 grand a month, it's a beautiful thing.

If it's on your neighbor's property and you're not in the unit, well then your neighbor sucks, the producers suck, the drilling co. sucks, everything sucks.

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If you want to stifle republican greed and general earthly malaise just quit breeding like rats people

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I don't think we should "push" oil drilling anywhere. But the fact is, there are a lot of countries that have oil, and if they see the huge profits to be made from it, they will start drilling on their own. As said earlier, we will still dependant on oil for some time, but the fact is, about half the oil we consume is flat out wasted. I mean, one person driving a Hummer H2 or Lincoln Navigator, or Cadillac Escalade as daily transportation? That just seems so ridiculous to me, and I'm hoping the high gas prices put a stop to most of it. Why drive a Hummer, when you could drive a Smart Car? The fact is, that as much as I like mopeds, scooters, and motorcycles, there is a large part of the population that shouldn't be allowed near one. If everybody had to ride 2 wheeled vehicles, we would see a massive increase in the number of traffic accidents, because these vehicles require a lot more skill to operate safely than a car does. But that doesn't mean that cars can't be really small. Peace. Jerry.

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have you ever smelled those things? I have to drive by a few oil fields to get to town. The whole area reeks of sewage

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