Smth tells me I bought a sleeper ped. Any ideas?

So the further I take apart my newly acquired '80 Grande, the more I think that it's kitted. I was not told this when I bought it but a few things point to it:

1) The ped is rusty and the engine parts are fairly clean, including the insides if you look into the carb port and exhaust port

2) It says Malossi on my engine head O_o

3) It came with a high flow/big chamber pipe (sorry I know nothing about exhaust so pardon if I use improper terminology!) I'm pretty sure it's the sito plus performance pipe.

4) The variator looks aftermarket to me, because it's got a red insert plate thing that I think would only come with an aftermarket variator.

What do you guys think? Did I buy a kitted ped?

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If it says Malossi on the head you probly at least have a high comp head, and I'd say it's likely you have a kit. Does it say Brevetata Malossi on the cylinder? What does the piston look like? Take some pictures, especially if you can get the head off and take one of the cylinder.

And those pipes are called expansion chambers. Take a picture of it, too.

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was it kinda fast when you rode it?

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take pics of everything and post em up

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I think it's looking pretty good, and I think that it IS kitted. I've never seen a kit so I wouldn't know though.

Also, this sounds sweet:

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Man, thats a sweet looking port map. I bet that thing is quick.

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Um damn. I dont know what kit that is, but it sure as hell isnt a stock vespa cylinder or piston. Porting looks slightly similar though ot identical to the 65cc Malossi I have on mine, but the piston is radically different. Looks like it has racing rings, though, and does look like a Malossi piston. The crank also looks to be aftermarket, couldnt tell you what kind. Sweet find, man. How fast was it going?

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awesome! that is def a malossi kit.

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omg how fast does that thing go it looks like its got loads of intake duration, and it does sound sweet man

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How much did you pay for it? That is without a doubt kitted.

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I don't know how fast it goes because there was no fuel line or spark plug wire when I bought it. Thinking that it's a stock ped I began taking it apart just to find this sweet dealio here. I plan to replace the flywheel, put my 13.13 carb on it (unless the one that came with it is a 13.13, I haven't checked yet) with my polini intake and put this engine on my other grande which I am restoring right now. The only thing I don't like about this engine is that it has no oil injection and I don't know if trading cases would be a good idea. When it comes to checking my engine and cleaning it out I will refer to you guys for proper procedure.

I paid 300$ CAN for it with a lot of extra parts and guess what!!! in the box of parts I just found the stock crank, piston, and head!

One question, when I put it back together, do the rings have to be alligned a certain way?

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that is a kit. and u have to lose the oil injection and premix with a kit or keep the oil injection and premix either way u premix to add more oil

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Yeah, Malossi recommends 32:1 on the 65cc kit, and that right there may well be a 70 (cant tell if the case has been widened or not). The Vespa injection will be set to meter 50:1, so you'd have to ditch the injection anyway.

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Thanks guys!

Can I use my polini pipe with this kit?

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man seeing that makes me want to pick up the malossi 70 i never seen a nice pic of it before.

You can use your polini pipe, but there junk, sell it and get a simonini.

Premix at what that dude said 32/1

get a pic of the variator.

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Mike's right, get the Simo. I'm not sure that is a 70 or not. If it is it's not like the 70 they make now that treats has. Not like the 64 either. Maybe an older one? Thats one of, if not the the most aggressive port maps and pistons I've ever seen. Make sure your crank is ground out larger than stock, youll want as much fuel suction as possible with that setup. Also let me know if you want to sell it :)

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sick kit

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sexiest portmap i've ever seen, that thing is gonna haul ass

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well, all of this is really good to hear :D I think I just might put it on my '78 grande :). I'll need some advice as to how to clean it and stuff and what precautions to take. James, imagine I decided to buy a kit, and when it came in only THEN would I have found this out haha

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Where do you guys get the simonini pipes?

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good score

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damn I would have paid that all day long the kit is what ?$275 ?

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Haha something close to that probably. + the variator, + the pipe. I'm quite happy, I just need to find time to get it all together now :) exams are done in 2 weeks so I guess that's when I'll get working on it :D

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Great find. Malossi stuff is my favorite. Super high quality kits. I'd mix 50:1 if I were you. I can't recall what the biggest carb is you can squeeze in there, but try to find one if it's not the 13/13.

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13/13 is the biggest

and they still make a malossi kit that looks like that but i have only seen it on 50cc.nl it looks kinda like the race kit but iono. Either way its going to haul

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Get your Simo pipes from treatshq on ebay. I'd plan on having to rig up your pedals and stand; any pipe that'll really let that kit breathe is going to get in the way unless you buy the $190 Calibrata.

What specifically needs cleaning? It looks from the pictures like the thing is ready to go. I assume it had a head gasket on there? If not, definitely add one.

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