Virginian? Write now to oppose moped House Bills.

Wednesday, 2000-12-27 07:10 UTC

The General Assembly convenes January 10, 2001, in Richmond Virginia.

House Bill HB 557

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?011+sum+HB557

threatens to make mopeds into motorcycles in Front Royal, Virginia,

with the related registration and licensing of mopeds and riders,

liability insurance, state inspections, personal property taxes, etc.

House Bill HB 1562

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?011+sum+HB1562

would make riding a moped without a helmet in Virginia a $50 traffic violation.

Learn the names and addresses of your House and Senate representatives

http://206.246.254.9/

and email them, or better, write to them and ask them to oppose these bills

(e.g., The Honorable full name/address, and Dear Senator or Delegate last name).

"Freedom isn't free, each generation must earn it."

Re: Virginian? Write now to oppose moped House Bil

Simon King /

wow - thanks for the heads up. If I lived in Virginia I'd be writing my representative right now. How did you learn about these bills? The problem for me is finding out that new laws have passed. Often something will change and you'll never even know about it - let alone have been able to protest it.

I wonder what the motivation behind this proposed change in law is? Actually accident counts - or just an excuse to push agendas?

Re: Virginian? Write now to oppose moped House Bil

Reeperette /

Damn Virgina, and damn Ohio too...is about what I have to say on the matter.

My preference would be a little impact-trauma 'discussion' with the damn fools who proposed this monstrosity.

The Moped is the ideal vehicle for many older and/or disabled people due to it's ease of use, automatic transmission, hand controls, and general similarity to an electric scooter.

One of my preferred reasons for Trikes is that an electric engine can be mounted as a secondary, for use in buildings, drive up on gas, switch to electric, and then switch back to gas on the way home and the generator/alternator will charge the battery for the electric - the perfect vehicle for those without use of thier legs.

This kind of over-regulation screws that up by and large, due to one simple fact.

A lot of the folks who ride mopeds cannot afford motorcyles - many of the disabled and older folks are on fixed incomes, and many of the younger crowd does not make enough money to pay out for all the bullshit scam-jobbery one has to deal with over even a motorcycle.

Bills like this kill mopeds dead, dead, dead - the primary reason for purchase is not having to deal with that crap, and when bills like this come out, most folks simply buy a motorcycle - if anyone, your local moped dealers ought to be throwing some major shit-fits over this, they have everything to lose.

As for agenda Simon, that being pointedly obvious - profit.

How many times have people cursed the whole inspection/emissions scam, which most of Michigan threw out when they realized it is nothing more than an abusive form of legalized robbery, and more often than not abused.

As for Insurance, don't even get me started...but just this, a company you pay scads of money to, who's first action after an accident is to use YOUR money to hire a battery of lawyers to do thier level best to prove the accident was your fault so they do not have to pay, sticking you with the deductible either way....I think anyone who works in that industry should be lined up and shot at dawn - in the stomach.

Add in registration, title, tags, yadda yadda - and they might as well just stick a gun in your face and demand your wallet besides.

Helmet laws are somewhat irrelavent, most 'ped riders wear them by choice even when such a law exists, and in my opinion, it's really up to you - but I prefer to keep my brains in my head, where they belong.

On that, getting the right helmet that is not too heavy, constricting, and doesn't make you feel like you have your head in a bucket is at times problematic, but I prefer the old Bell open-face 3/4 head, without face shield - it offers maximum protection with minimum frustration, good visibility and doesn't weigh much.

All in all, this bill needs to die - contact your local riders, and especially your local dealers (who have the money to get into politics and bribe, err...donate to, the right people), and kill the damn thing before it breeds.

And while you're at it, spit in the general direction of Ohio for me, since they've already adopted all that bullshit and more.

(like reclassifying "moped" so that even a stock Tomos isn't small/quiet/slow enough to qualify)

Let us know how it goes,

-Ree

Re: Virginian? Write now to oppose moped House Bil

gimmejimmie /

You riders in VA will have fight this proposed legislation immediately. Jan 10 is coming soon Start calling your representatives to vote no on these bills, a typed or hand written letter works well also. You must be a voter or your pissin in the wind. Contact your local ABATE chapter (Alliance of Bikers Aimed Towards Education) there is one in every state. These people fight for riders rights and law changes. It does not matter what you ride, you don't even have to own a bike to join. To find your local chapter, check out or call your area bike shops, they probably have a poster with meeting info with phone numbers on one of their bulliten boards. My chapter has a website- www.abatepa.org then click a link to find out more about ABATE or other rider rights groups. I think Ohio, Michigan have sites also. ABATE is in every state fighting for bikers rights, and they have legislative rep officers that monitor state and federal laws affecting how we ride. Whether it's a moped, scooter, ATV, motorcycle, or whatever we enjoy in life, politics and government will always screw it up LET THOSE WHO RIDE, DECIDE!!!

Re: Virginian? Write now to oppose moped House Bil

I live in the COMMONWEALTH OF VA. THE LAWS AND TAXES,ECT. ARE REAL COMMON!(SUCK) SPOKE WITH MY REPRESENATIVE, HE ASSURED ME THEY WOULD NOT MAKE IT TO VOTE, ALSO SAID THEY WERE SHOT DOWN ONCE BEFORE AND WOULD BE AGAIN. HEY, IF NORTHERN VA. GETS IT, BET SOUTHWEST VA. WILL TOO! call your rep> AND BE HEARD. DOUG D.

THANK YOU !

OTTO, I just want to thank you for keeping us informed on these matters, they push these bills through without anyone knowing till its to late. DOUGLAS DAVIDSON in VA.

Re: Virginian? Write now to oppose moped House Bil

Hello, OTTO, I have been unable to find out how the House Bills turned out. PLEASE let me know if you have heard. Thanks Douglas Davidson, Roanoke,VA.

Re: Virginian? Write now to oppose moped House Bil

Friday, 2001-01-12 04:36 UTC

My House Delegate said that HB 1562

had been referred to the Transportation

Committee and that he isn't on that

committee. Said he wouldn't have

a chance to oppose it unless it came

out of that committee onto the Floor,

and that he would decide then

his position on the bill. He suggested

that I write the members of the

Transportation Committee,which I did

at their in-session Richmond addresses.

Don't know when would be to late for

you to write them about it, but here are

all twenty-four of them if you should

wish to. Until then you can check the

status of the bill at

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?011+sum+HB1562

WATKINS M ABBITT JR

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 805

RICHMOND VA 23219-3498

RICHARD H BLACK

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 517

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

HARRY B BLEVINS

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 505

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

THOMAS M BOLVIN

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 419

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

WHITTINGTON W CLEMENT

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 809

RICHMOND VA 23219-3498

FLORA DAVIS CRITTENDEN

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 815

RICHMOND VA 23219-3498

L KAREN DARNER

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 711

RICHMOND VA 23219-3498

V EARL DICKINSON

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 948

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

THELMA DRAKE

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 717

RICHMOND VA 23219-3498

WILLIAM J HOWELL

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 714

RICHMOND VA 23219-3498

DWIGHT CLINTON JONES

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 508

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

JERRAULD C JONES

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 502

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

JAY K KATZEN

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 716

RICHMOND VA 23219-3498

Re: Virginian? Write now to oppose moped House Bil

Friday, 2001-01-12 04:52 UTC

Here's the rest of the list of twenty-four:

R STEVEN LANDES

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 528

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

P E LARRABEE

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 417

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

JOE T MAY

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 514

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

ROGER J MCCLURE

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 718

RICHMOND VA 23219-3498

BRIAN J MORAN

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 710

RICHMOND VA 23219-3498

JOHN S REID

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 703

RICHMOND VA 23219-3498

WILLIAM P ROBINSON JR

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 501

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

JOHN A ROLLISON III

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 524

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

JACKIE T STUMP

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 513

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

JOHN H TATE JR

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 509

RICHMOND VA 23219-3400

LEO C WARDRUP JR

GENERAL ASSEMBLY BLDG

910 CAPITOL ST RM 722

RICHMOND VA 23219-3498

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