Thank you, People's Liberation Army of China!

My new helmet just arrived in the craziest packaging, fresh from China... it still smells like earthquake. (sorry)

I believe this is the single greatest purchase I have made under $10... now i just need to figure out how to hook the headset up to an ipod.

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my chinese-ass helmet just smelled like poison. lucky you.

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I.R.E. Mike Pee /

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Was that from the seller who's negative feedback has mostly to do with his shipping charges - which are unknown until after you commit to buy?

And what were those koo koo kooky shipping charges anyways? Hmm?

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Tom Rainwater /

I actually like that helmet. :)

On ebay?

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A ten dollar, chinese made Helmet?

AVOID! AVOID!

--Scott

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in plain english:

if you get hit on the side of the head with that helmet you will have metal pins through your skull and be in a coma.

SERIOUSLY!

Notice how DOT flip visors and shields have plastic mechanisms.

there is a reason for it.

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in my defense:

- The guy i bought from had zero feedback, I emailed him and he was super helpful and inexperienced enough that I trusted him. I know it's a risk but i've been in his shoes before and i hate how zero feedback makes you an ebay leper.

- shipping was $40, I thought that was a little steep and only bid $10. nobody else bid and I won it. The paperwork with it says he paid 390 Chinese Yuan, which equals roughly $57 U.S., so I think he lost money on this deal.

- you're right travis, this thing reeks of fiberglass resin. I'm hoping that will fade.

- I don't wanna hear it about full face, I own a Batavus. I could trip while running and hit the ground harder.

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well, they keep the exchange rate at roughly 8rmb/1USD, so he paid just under $50 bucks for it, which is about what he made from you, but minus ebay and paypal fees. i would just make sure it's lead free!!!! :)

come on, not everything that comes from china is bad. i'm chinese! and they make a lot of cheap electronics, and dvds that look and play like originals.

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personally, im not against that it is chinese- i got one of those (same color even) to scratch build over for a photograph and while looking at it's design I was kind of frustrated at how dangerous it would be to get in an accident with that helmet on. Upon impact the pins and screws on the sides are going to crack the fiberblass shell like a bullet and go straight into your head. It is not quality, it is just design- they are not designed for impact. Though with your batavus, you do have a point....

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I buy stuff from China all the time. Love it!!

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Lead Free? Homey please I'm not afraid of a little lead. I eat lead like that for breakfast.

seriously though, those pins of the side do make me a little nervous, they're in just the right place to shoot into my temple if i hit on the side. I'll prolly replace them with bolts made of soft pvc.

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Aesthetics: A+

Crash Effectiveness: ?

BEWARE... THE RISE OF THE BATAPUCH!!!

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slave labor ftw

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Gee...That's Funny!!

You don't look like you have a $10 Head...... :>)

Moe

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That kind of reminds me of this little guy:

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why do people think cheap helmets are worth any thing? And that you can ride with one of those un padded metal WWII helmets and it wont led to you getting even more hurt?

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It's your funeral, wear what you like.

I would never wear a half helmet but it looks cool IMO

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Hey Moe. The way I see it, the value of your head cannot be expressed in monetary terms. This is my newest helmet. I got it for $49.99 from JCWhitney, with free shipping. It is a ZIR, which is DOT approved only. I have a total of 6 helmets, 4 of which are both DOT and Snell approved. I did some research on helmet ratings, after someone on here made a post about it, including a link to a rather lengthy motorcycle magazine article about it, including a conversation with Dr. Harry Hurt himself. According to professor Hurt, DOT helmets are actually safer in the type of accidents most riders have, than Snell rated helmets. Considering his reputation, I'll take his advice over anyone elses anytime. Not only that, but DOT only helmets are a lot cheaper than Snell helmets. And this particular model did better in their tests than some $300+ helmets. As for those Chinese things, I won't even go there. Peace. Jerry.

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what helmets are not made in china

even the harley davidson are made in china

i just bought a motorcross helmet from tractor supply for $62 its made in china

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Forgot picture. ^

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that probably made in china too

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Your right. It is. But before condeming it because of that, read thishttp://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.htmland then order one. They are still on sale, with free shipping. Peace. Jerry.

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Hurray, Liberate the PEOPLE!

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awesome link, thankyou soo much!

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quote Hey Moe. The way I see it, the value of your head cannot be expressed in monetary terms. This is my newest helmet. I got it for $49.99 from JCWhitney, with free shipping. It is a ZIR, which is DOT approved only. I have a total of 6 helmets, 4 of which are both DOT and Snell approved. I did some research on helmet ratings, after someone on here made a post about it, including a link to a rather lengthy motorcycle magazine article about it, including a conversation with Dr. Harry Hurt himself. According to professor Hurt, DOT helmets are actually safer in the type of accidents most riders have, than Snell rated helmets. Considering his reputation, I’ll take his advice over anyone elses anytime. Not only that, but DOT only helmets are a lot cheaper than Snell helmets. And this particular model did better in their tests than some $300+ helmets. As for those Chinese things, I won’t even go there. Peace. Jerry. /quote

Keep in mind DOT helmet standards are hardly policed and rely on the manufacturers themselves to adhere to the standards. Snell is an independent third party certification and helmets are tested more frequently. Snell has a lower G force threshold for peak forces and has requirements for multiple im[acts, but does not address duration of forces.

A lot of people claim a Snell helmet is more expensive because of the certification, but I believe a lot of the companies that use Snell tend to push the envelope more on making their helmet lighter, more ventilated, or easier to use and rely on the Snell sticker to add peace of mind to the customer.

This doesn't mean a DOT helmet is not as good, they in fact can be better or worse, but there is no reliable way of knowing unless a third party tests the helmets. DOT does not test very many, and there is now easy way to find out which ones were tested.

Bottom line: without any other data, a Snell helmet has more "proof" of safety than one that is not Snell approved.

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bah. say what you will, in indiana we have no helmet laws. I went for a spin this evening and got laughed at by over a dozen guys on harleys and goldwings, all of them bareheaded.

As stupid as riding without a helmet may be, I kinda admire my state for not enforcing that sort of benevolent fascism.

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A Snell rated helmet has more proof that it's been tested, and meets Snell's standards, but these helmets were actually tested by David Thom and Harry Hurt, both of whom said that they did meet DOT standards, and that DOT standards are better than Snell standards. Snell obviously disagrees with this, but considering the fact that these two guys have been testing helmets for decades, and are the most respected people in the field, I'll still take their advice over that of anyone from Snell. I have a copy of the Hurt Report, which I got when it first came out, not to long after I started riding motorcycles on the street. I admire the Snell Foundation for what they are doing, but I think their standards need to be changed a bit. And just as one more piece of evidence, I also emailed Art Friedman, longtime and well known editor of many motorcycle magazines, and a believer in motorcycle safety, who has racked up more 2 wheeled miles than I will ever come close to, and he agrees with the information in that article as well. Friedman has has a long relationship with Harry Hurt and David Thom, going back to the '70s. The Snell sticker has long been an important consideration in buying a helmet, and I have bought several helmets because of it. But the opinions of three of the most reputable people in the business has changed my mind about that, and I hope that Snell revises it's standards, which it will, if it's true purpose is protecting people in motorcycle accidents, and not just helping to sell helmets. Peace. Jerry.

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