Wildfire moped (sort of)

tom Franklin /

May 17, 2008 11:39AM

Hey everyone, I came across these mopeds on the web. One is a 49cc 4stroke, and another is a hopped up 110cc version.

Here is the link for the 110.

http://www.wildfiremotors.com//index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=128&category_id=6&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=39

Anyway, they look a lot like RCmoto Model M bikes. In Fact I think they are the same.

I'm considering buying one as the price is pretty good, and I think the 110CC motor will move me better then my 500 tomos.

Does any one have any experiance with thses bikes or RCmotos version?

I know they are china made, but it appears wildfire has a full parts selection for it.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Oh, here is a picture:

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Mark Ryan /

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markryan

May 17, 2008 11:42AM

Chinese made and hard to get parts for and plus RCMoto is skeeeeeeetchy. I don't recommend. Plus in most states the 110cc version you need to register et al like a motorcycle. Plus expensive!- and you have to assemble it upon arrival despite what you pay- etc, etc, etc......wait it out and get a good, old moped.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Mark Ryan /

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markryan

May 17, 2008 11:45AM

....oops didn't finish reading your post. I guess none of that applies or you don't care- 1000 bucks is a lot of money to me.still.... rcmoto is way sketchy though.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

tom Franklin /

mopedfreak

May 17, 2008 11:52AM

Well I'm torn. My 1991 tomos is nearing 5000 miles, and its about worn out. I was planing a large trip, and now I'm worried she wont hold up.

I called a local tomos dealer, and they want $1800 for a 2008 tomos ttlx, or $1950 for a revival. (thats tax/tags/title)

I have takled with wild fire and negotiated a after shipping proce of less then 1000. So it seemed like a better deal, but I know nothing of these Jailing bikes. So I was a little worried.

This seller is NOT a reseller of RCmoto stuff, they are just selling the same bike rebranded as a "wildfire"

And again they claim to have a full parts selection for this model, although I belive RCmoto made the same claim.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Mark Ryan /

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markryan

May 17, 2008 12:02PM

Personally, if you want your tomos running like new you could take it to the tomos dealer or a small engine place and get it rebuild- might be a lot cheaper for you. Get an estimate-- New bearings, seals, gaskets, rings, etc- RCMoto has claimed parts, but i have never heard anyone happy with them- they also disappear of the face of the planet and you don't hear from them for months and months at a time- plus their website goes down or disappears too- it just seems really unreliable.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Silverfox Sullivan /

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silverfox

May 17, 2008 03:08PM

In most stated you will have to register it as a motorcycle.

Have you checked your state's laws?

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

jens /

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jens

May 17, 2008 03:25PM

Wearing out? Hardly!

Your tomos is a bike that's made to last till someone kills it, with a reputation for being a good bike, and with a market that wants it... You would trade that for this pos that no one knows anything about?

It went 5000 miles for a reason. I doubt the wildfire will do the same.

If you buy a cheap bike, it should be cheap. I got my kinetic for 100 bucks and some music stuff, and its an 03

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Moped Jay /

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jasont

May 17, 2008 03:37PM

theres nothing wrong with those bikes them jialing engines are as bullet proof as a honda you cant kill them

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Moped Jay /

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jasont

May 17, 2008 03:41PM

man they sell some crazy shit on wildfire

i guess this is supposed to be a modern cushman

http://www.wildfiremotors.com//index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=131&category_id=26&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=75

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Jonny Cook /

poolpool

Jan 04, 2009 08:53PM

i just saw those also,and was considering buying one but now i am not! thank you moped heads ,most items from china are made junky so you will have to buy another1 . mY HONDA PA 50 IS THE BEST ! HAPPY MOPEDING

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

James Ott /

jamesbutlerott

Mar 06, 2009 05:12PM

I own one of these with a 90cc engine. Overall the bike is great. Solid, very little plastic. Most Honda parts fit this bike. Easy to ride.

I have a tank top model from RCmoto I much prefer. With a 110cc engine in it, it flies.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Tate in Madison /

madtownmick

Sep 17, 2010 01:29AM

I just picked one of these up for peanuts.

Its a 50cc 4 speed manual with a clutch and everything.

Its actually a kind of cool little bike.

I think Jay is right up there.

The engines on these are rough and tumble but the rest of the bikes are kind of meh.

Also its based on the Honda cub/super cub/whatever style engine so you could drop in one of those lifan engines from anything.

Also the nutty part is that it is totally a PA50 II frame and tank.

Too bad it doesn't have a disc brake up front or out would be a straight swap for Hobbit.

Mine has like 63 Km on the odometer and is pretty much new accept the fact that it was left outside neglected for a year or 2.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Pete Daddeo *YouTube: Moped Problems* /

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peted

Sep 17, 2010 01:47AM

Wildfire sucks really bad. Horrible quality.

Yes, its cool that its a baby motorcycle. And its a 4 speed manual. and its a stepthrew.

But, the chrome will rust in a couple months. The battery and tubes need to be replaced asap. It will stop running on you in the first 6 months. And the powder coating flakes.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Tate in Madison /

madtownmick

Sep 17, 2010 09:07PM

Yeah your not lying about the chrome. Its terrible.

I am actually fairly impressed with the engine and transmission though.

I opened it up and took a good look at it and I can say that the actually powerplant itself has my seal of approval.

Dude I bought it from actually put a $50 battery in it the day before I bought it from him.

Basically there was too much tension on the clutch cable so there was no power to the rear wheel.

Its just like adjusting an engine valve where you loosen a nut then the stud/bolt the nut is on has a slot for a screwdriver to turn it in or out to adjust how much clutch you have.

I am guessing this one was just never set up or adjusted properly because the clutch and carb and brakes and chain tension were all out of whack.

I am guessing that was really common with these. Some shady used car lot starts selling them with no idea how to work on them and ends up selling them without them being assembled or adjusted properly.

So I guess you are right. It did stop working for dude within the first six months but it was only because he didn't know how to maintain and keep it in adjustment.

I mean these things are sold all over the world and sell and sell. I think its just a matter of taking care of them.

Could be wrong. I guess we will see.

In any case I think its a fun little contraption.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

M-Tenn Aaron /

aaronanalog

Sep 17, 2010 09:44PM

Here is my take on this subject;

TOMOS are great !!! If you want them to stick around keep buying Tomos.

Chinese shit is SHIT !!! Sure the motors are ok because they took the designs from tested and true motors like Honda. the chrome sucks, the bolts that hold them together suck, the metal that the bolts screw into suck and the threads will break if you do one turn too many, cheap bearings, cheap seals, cheap hoses, knock off carbs with no air/fuel mix screw, etc, etc...

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

murdoch /

rsteve

Sep 17, 2010 10:21PM

check this bad boy out:

http://www.wildfiremotors.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=26&Itemid=39

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

M-Tenn Aaron /

aaronanalog

Sep 17, 2010 11:02PM

^^^^ Just don't take a turn too fast in that thing.

Wildfire moped

David Neil /

mopedmoster

Jul 17, 2012 11:06PM

what do you know about repairing the wildfire moped and have ever you got it up to top speed .

Re: Wildfire moped

Mars /

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mars

Jul 17, 2012 11:15PM

Not a moped. Try scootdawg.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

fallout Survivor /

john_mastro

Jul 18, 2012 07:03AM

I could not see the moped on that link, but I have seen the wildfire mopeds, and ridden one and I have seen the three wheel motorcycle/car they feature on the web site. The wildfire moped was a very slow and poorly constructed 4 stroke with obviously poor fit and finish. The manual was a one page joke and it was incorrect (wiring diagram was wrong). I recently visited a local dealer selling the Laser SSR , another slightly better POS and the guy showed me two of those mini-car things he could not sell because they were such obvious pieces of shit, noone would buy them. Plus they had defects he reflected.

They might be better quality stuff from china someday (they are trying to catch up), but they are nowhere there yet. You are risking your money buying a chinese scooter, moped or tri-wheeled mini car.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Jim Rees /

jimbo001

Jul 18, 2012 04:33PM

I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all metal construction, and they run like a top. I bought one several months ago, and haven't had one problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn, emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People on this site say they are junk, however the proof is in owning one as i do. They are the best value for the money that i can find, if you're thinking of buying a new moped. You can listen to people that put them down, but they have never owned one like i do. They are good little bikes!

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Mars /

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mars

Jul 18, 2012 04:34PM

^ spam

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Jim Rees /

jimbo001

Jul 18, 2012 04:37PM

Oh yea, there's a place in Michigan that's selling them for $899.00. Not sure what the shipping cost is.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

7yl3|2 . /

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tyler

Jul 18, 2012 04:48PM

Jim Rees Wrote:

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> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Jim Rees Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I recommend buying a SSR Lazer 5 moped, it's a

> 4-stroke, two stage manual shif transmission, all

> metal construction, and they run like a top. I

> bought one several months ago, and haven't had one

> problem with it. I ride it almost every day. It

> has headlight/taillight, turn signals, horn,

> emergency flashers, electric start, etc. People

> on this site say they are junk, however the proof

> is in owning one as i do. They are the best value

> for the money that i can find, if you're thinking

> of buying a new moped. You can listen to people

> that put them down, but they have never owned one

> like i do. They are good little bikes!

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Swoopid Woody /

harlan3

Jul 18, 2012 04:59PM

hey ole Jimbo, what happened to your apology and promising to not spam your POS on our site anymore?

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Born to be WillD /

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willd

Jul 18, 2012 05:02PM

all new mopeds are kindof bullshit, but heck even if that does break a new 110 motor is 300 bucks complete. i mean it is what it is, there's no street cred to be had, and it's a waste of money imo, but if you want an easy "reliable" bick and you want it quickly and you want it clean then this is for you. it's not for me.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

♣Slew Foot♣ /

thewhitedog

Jul 18, 2012 10:44PM

look for an older honda way less head aches

i had the opertunity to go over a wildfire 150 cc scoot. the one i looked at had 539 miles on it.

the guy said he had bought it recently put 70 miles on it since, he was cruising at the park he had just got gas<20 blocks before coasting down a hill it just cut out.

after a phone call from a mutual friend, i drove a knarly uphill & 25 miles in 100 degree heat on the VLX to inspect it and see if i could help him out. armed with an 46 lb roadkit (large econosize). armed with everything and anything he could need that i had, just to clarify the mutual friend is an idiot and told me it was a moped.

after ten minutes of fiddling about, we figured out it had a special small plug that you need the included toolkit tool to remove without disassembly of body or dropping of engine.

which is a simular design to a vespa bella or vespa ilk. even the inaccessable fly wheel w/ a crazy swing arm assembly remmenicent of a tfr/ kinetic all bunched up in a 45 degree swingarm rake.

it also has this tomos design flaw of if you need to get to the carb you need to get extremly clever or drop the engine.

twenty minutes in we seen we had spark as the plughole is 100% recessed in a heatshield to keep the cheap plastic panels from melting which obscure your view of an off center off angle fine thread hole.

i got it down to a fuel delivery/ carb issue, i showed him what would be involved to clear a clogged jet or cleaning the carb. it was 6PM, the park closes at dusk and luckily there was a pick up truck there to cart it home.

Re: Wildfire moped (sort of)

Jim Rees /

jimbo001

Jul 19, 2012 10:35AM

Hi Woodbury,

I'm not trying to spam anything, whatever that means, i was just offering my opinion to someone that was asking for advise on buying something new. I think a new Lazer 5 would be better than a Wildfire, don't you? I've had mine for a while now, and no complaints or problems with it. If it was as bad as everyone says, why does it perform so good without problems? Makes no sense to me. I thought this site was for all moped riders, not just certain brands, or just 2 strokes. But see, i'm being good, i didn't say anything about you know who...

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