Re: Sparta, Ebay and the Free Market

Also- for everyone interested..

myspace.com/teamfoxi

i started this last winter with these exact ideas andrew has mentioned. feel free to join!

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Vimy Ridgeway /

Andrew, have you ever tried to tell someone to use their common sense and all you got back was the look reserved for the creature from ther black lagoon?

A valiant effort, but greedy fucks are greedy fucks no matter what club they belong to.

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Vimy Ridgeway /

You are all being unfair to Jim, kiddies. All he is pointing out is that you have limited control over the auction process in a system of supply and demand. If someone wants something badly enough, and has the money to pay for it, he/she will pay as much money as needed to to satisfy the want.

You can form a 'cartel' of Sparta owners to reduce or stop bidding against each other and thus keep the price of parts down, but your ability to do so is limited to your little group and your your ability to keep each other in line. And that will break down when there is one essential part left and two people who need it.

I'm really surprised you people don't know basic economics; it would save you from having to start, continue, and endure such moronic threads as this one. To someone with a basic knowledge of how markets work, this thread (sorry, andrew) is on par with "how do I make my mind go dumber."

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haha the look back like the creature from the black logoon lol.

Oh and the best part of listening to Rush ( not the Canadian Rock trio but the dude wasted on 300,000 dollars worth of Oxycontin while saying drug dealers should be dealth the harshest penaltys) is that he's way farther out on pills then you could ever be.

I laugh about the whole community thing as well. It's true capatalizm is individual , but the true power of capatalism is best illustrated when shown in groups..

It doesnt always work. Sometimes it does tho.

The truth is i dont care about the people who are just out for themselves and dont care for others, im specifially talking in the post about the ones I actually DO give a shit about, the ones who give a shit back.

There's plenty of us.

And that greedy person will not be me, so in the end, thats all that matters.

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Haha Topher -

and just cuase your marching with a community doesnt mean your marching to the Left politically...alot of elements of Facism as well as National Socialism shared the whole cult o community thing...

and truth is i dont wanna have Mussolini OR Mao over for dinner.

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Daveysea, you know damn well i'm smarter than to try and put together a sparta cartel. Although the idea is funny, its totally stupid.

As ive said before the sole intent was to let people know if they looked around it appears that this seller has lots of stuff, and he's probably gonna put it on slowly, so lets everyone not lose our heads and overbid when there is likely some shit coming down the line.

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Vimy Ridgeway /

Andrew, look at it this way: as the guy's stock gets sold off, it's going to get more expensive. So when there's five carbs left, people will wait; when there's one carb left, they'll pay a premium. That's why oil is at $125 bucks a barrel and was at $8 ten years ago. Diminishing supply + market perception = opportunity to manipulate price. And they have a supply cartel. And like it or lump it, so does this guy. He can turn the tap on or off. Macroeconomics 101.

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*You can form a

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toe fur threadkiller /

or mccain or hillary?

heh heh heh heh heh heh

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Nah, none of us that know sparta's are gonna buy those carbs, cause we all know that the reason they are turned around in the picture is that they are the restriced ones and if we were gonna drill out a carb it isnt going to be a square bing.

Again, in the end , im not going to get in a bidding battle with people i communicate with here and respect, thats all.

Was oil 8 dollars a barrel 10 years ago?

Holy shit.

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Vimy Ridgeway /

Hell, andrew it's the internet. You'd think people with Spartas who happen to be either MA members or posters would naturally not get into bidding wars with each other.

By the way, I have the market cornered on left-handed petcocks.

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Id have John McCain over for dinner anytime.

Ill vote against him, but I believe he has alot of personal attribues that make him a good person with incredible integrety and exprerience and he has served his Country to the best he could and at a horrid cost.

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Vimy Ridgeway /

Yeah, hard to believe. Finished '98 at $10, went to $16 by 200, $25 by '03, and the rest is history.

Big stagflationary times ahead from rising commodity prices and inflation with little or no GDP growth.

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Hell, andrew it’s the internet. You’d think people with Spartas who happen to be either MA members or posters would naturally not get into bidding wars with each other.

By the way, I have the market cornered on left-handed petcocks.

Again, I think it maybe my first post, but we naturally would not bid against each other cuase one of us would have seen the stuff, figured out the seller had a bunch, and also figured out he's got another 5 bikes with parts that he's never gonna unload for 900 dollars, and let the word out that there are some parts coming down the line, and there is another guy who is putting some stuff up so lets not get mental. And as basic ecenomics would tell ya, increased supply will lower the demand.

Here's my hot tip for the day - there's and increased supply.

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Vimy Ridgeway /

Story in the New York Times or Washington Post a day or two ago that said white blue-collar Democrats will switch votes to McCain over Hillary or Obama, for reasons that are probably obvious to white blue-collar types but baffling to me.

I'd have McCain at my table too; I just wouldn't vote for him.

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8 dollars a barrel.

Think thats why Americans stopped advertising fuel economy standards? LOL

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Anyway dave, no more arguing with you

THERE IS A NEW "THATS NOT A MOPED - ITS A GOLFCART/HUMVEE/STEAM POWERERED/CORN OIL BURNING/ETHENOL POWERD STEAMSHOVEL" POST UP!

I'm gonna go in and argue removing the pump from all tomos mopeds, how about you?

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Vimy Ridgeway /

As the parts get sold off, the price will go up unless demand dries up. While there are more people who want parts than there are parts available, the price will go up. And the fewer parts there are left, the more the seller can ask for them, so long as [people need them. Or, as in an auction, he will let competing bidders set the market price.

The last barrel of oil will be the most expensive in history.

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No way dude, GW says we are gonna have cars that run on Hydrogen! Just water!

To be released as soon as the oil companies can corner the hydrogen market.

Wait. It takes oil to use electrolosis to seperate it?

Ya thats gonna be an expensive gallon of oil.

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Vimy Ridgeway /

Yeah, I keep meaning to stop, too, andrew, but we're kind of posting alternately every two or three minues.

Hey, I'm keeping the oil pump on my Grande; after all it's only 26 years old. I'm a million years old, and my oil pump still works. But's I'm not a tomos.

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Vimy Ridgeway /

All right, you Sparta owners, stop bidding against each other. It's over!

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John hanibal Smith /

I could use a rear rim and tire for mine Andrew.

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Allright you speculators.. take a second and breath. And my name is Hopewellz not Hopewaltz.

I know the seller. I have bought 4 bikes off of him. He ran a large moped rental outfit at the beach, until the blacks (his words not mine). He rented Sparta's exclusively and imported them by the container.

He is a pretty far out dude. Rascist and only out for a buck. I have seen his parts cache and his storage unit. He said he was going to sell all his remaining parts to HandyBikes but never did. Here are some cliffnotes.

1. 20+ rebuilt rims with new spokes.

2. 55 gallon drum full of sidecovers (he removed them from all his bikes)

3. Lots of spockets, coils, points

4. All the toolkits and manuals from the bikes.

5. Several pulled engines.

6. All the engines and carbs are unrestricted 30mph - 504/1A

7. He has a few NOS Sparta's still in the crate

If I can think of anything else I will post it.

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Myron's Mopeds has some bad ass refurbished side-covers made of fiberglass...

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Sorry Hopewellz.. i knew i didnt spell it right.

So from an ecenomic standpoint, seeing they were unobtainium a week ago, does this mean the market is flooded and i shouldnt bid 200 bucks?

im joking

Thanks for the info.

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Hi Andrew, I agree to a point, free market is what it is, I will pay way too much for something that may be someone elses garbage, if I need it/want it, that is what makes america great, it would be nice if everyone gave stuff away and some do, but if you need it man up and buy it, we are not restoring lambroughini's here, they are mopeds for gods sake! BTW I did not read the rest of the posts in this thread, and I'am not angry although my posting sounded angry...I type faster than I think sometimes! Cat-eyes are mounted but not hooked up yet, this summer the pics of the most beautifull red motobecane will be posted, thanks again for all your help and for selling me parts, you are one of the few the proud and the few I will trust to buy parts from! As always best of luck!

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I would, you may make a new friend and who knows maybe they will give/sell you something cheap in the future, I made a great friend on here and he can have my Kriedler mp19 for free if he wants it to anyone else I would charge 100.00(it is a project) He has gotten me cheap parts as have I for him, sounds gay but that is not it if you know people help them out if not get your price, don't rip people off but get your price.

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Steamboat Aka J. R. Stevens /

IMO It's a no win situation.Jim

Someone posts "There is a Nice Moby on St Louis Craig's List. somebody better get it." Someone comes back with "Why did you do that, I am bidding on it."

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again free market forces at work, what you gonna do? if you want/need it be prepared to pay for it, these are mopeds not cars a 50.00 moped part is cheap compared to modern car parts...just do your best to buy local and as cheap as you can on e-bay and buy sell forum make friends and share when you can! Best of luck to all! Just for comparison I bought a hobbit rear rim with drive components for 20.00 and a uselss motobecane air pump for 15.00+shipping so there you are...one was had cheap and one was way over priced but I bought both!

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=017&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=270234553114&rd=1

the sweet rewards of ebay sniping. i was willing to pay upto $100 for this stuff but wouldnt be home when it was over. so i set $100 in the sniper and went to work. came home and i had won it for $11!

now, since i got such a deal i'm giving away the parts i dont want from the lot.

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