engine wont start. went through all of freds steps

ham /

Aug 03, 2002 01:57AM

wow. im do frustrated right now. i bought a 1980 garelli gran sport from some guy for $100. he told me all it needed was $20 piston rings and it would go smooth. i got the rings today and installed them and filled up the tank. i got excited and it didnt run. i held the clutch and gave it a little gas and hit the pedal. it purrs like it wants to start. i know it wants to start.

i came online and read friends guide and follow all three steps. i went and bought a new plug. that didnt work.

i took out the carb and looked and it. its 100% spot less. it looks brand new.

i checked the fuel line and it flows nicely.

when i leaned the carb upside down...a bunch of gas spilled. i really dont know whats going on. i tried everything possible! why doesnt it start?! the ignition wire is touching the frame. HELP! i need this running! what are my other options? ;\ please?

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chuck russo va /

Aug 03, 2002 02:10AM

well if it wont run one of those things arnt good enough, is your ignition timing set correctly?>

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ham /

Aug 03, 2002 02:18AM

im guessing it is. the person i bought it from said it was running perfectly before be broke a ring. :|

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Reeperette /

Aug 03, 2002 05:03AM

>>the ignition wire is touching the frame.<<

That'll prevent it from starting, yeah...

>>when i leaned the carb upside down...a bunch of gas spilled.<<

Can't tell from the pic, if that carb is a Bing or Encarwi, or something else....but you might have a stuck float, which isn't necessarily crud, it could be assembled wrong, or even with the float upsidedown (which is possible in some carbs).

Check it's action and make sure it works correctly.

-R

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ham /

Aug 03, 2002 05:56AM

what? the ground from the engine needs to be touching metal. and the carb is assembled correctly.

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Larry /

Aug 03, 2002 08:13AM

I bought a Garelli Gran Sport LTD like that one brand new in 1978! I paid $525 for it back in '78.

That bike has a Dellorto carb. Make sure the main jet in the carb is clear by taking a piece of wire from a wire brush and poking it through the jet. Also, pull the fuel tap from the gas tank to make sure the screen isn't clogged. Where is the air filer assy? Make sure you have spark. Are you using the correct spark plug? Get yourself a Champion L86C if you're not sure. Also, clean the points by taking a piece of emery board (nail file) and rub in between the points. Other than these things, there's not a whole lot needed to get them running again.

If all else fails and you live near NJ, I'd be glad to take it off your hands :-). It's like seeing an old friend again!

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Fred /

Aug 03, 2002 08:22AM

You checked all the steps huh ?

I don't see anything about you checking for spark at the plug like it says to do.

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ham /

Aug 03, 2002 09:11AM

i check for sparks. my brother even got a nice huge jolt. :| i get spark.

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russ /

Aug 03, 2002 06:09PM

I noticed in the pic that there is no air filter on you carb...

do you have the air filter?

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ham /

Aug 03, 2002 07:14PM

Yes I have an air filter.

same nightmare

Zach /

Aug 03, 2002 10:30PM

It doesnt start right? I recently went through a nightmare month where everything I tried on my puch wouldnt make it work. In the end I realized that when I removed my cylinder head (and tapped out the holes...) I may have lost pressure in the crank case. (Death to 2-cycle running...) SO take your cylinder off and replace the base gasket (It has one right?) and put thread lock on your cylinder studs to seal them. (just in case...) Mine fired right up.

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jakeR /

Aug 04, 2002 04:00PM

have you tried taking your plug out and spraying wd40 or ether in the cylinder the replace the plug quickly and try to start it . if it starts then stops it is a fuel prob if it doesn't start at all then it is a spark prob.

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