difference between mopeds and scooters

free mosquito /

ok, what are the other differences between a moped and scooter,,,, other than one has pedals.

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As I've said before,

MOPED: 50CC max, 2HP max, 30MPH max, Automatic transmission, Pedals for propulsion.

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Actually, it's the PEDALS that make the difference. A scooter can also have 50cc, 2hp, 30mph max, and authomatic transmission. But a moped has pedals (moped=moter+pedals). Of course, scooters also have the distinctive leg shields.

Now a 50cc kickstart non-scooter (no leg shield) such as ... say ... a Bridgestone ... may classify as a moped to some people.

But for me it's pedals. A pedal start 70cc conversion moped is still a moped. Also, some mopeds were 4-stroke, not 2-stroke. So I think it comes down to pedals.

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i read somewhere that it's the placement of the motor. The motor is at the back on a scoter and the motor is in the middle on a moped. I did see a moped with the motor in the top of the front wheel though. It was a solex i think. I think it's the pedals that count.

roger

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Ron Brown /

In the words of Her Majesty's Government:

"Moped" moped means a motor cycle with an engine of cylinder capacity not exceeding fifty cubic centimeters, being a cycle equipped with pedals by means of which it is capable of being propelled.

My translation is the same as Miguel's, mo(tor) ped(al).

Definitions in the US vary from state to state but they are for puposes of licensing, not really a definition of the vehicle.

The first motor I ever owned was a 25cc Cyclemaster wheel (see pic on this site). It did not become a moped until mounted in a pedal cycle. Of course, it was hard to ride before mounting in a cycle too!

Ron

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just my 2

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Ron Brown /

I just realized that the answer to this original question is none.

There are models of mopeds and scooters which are basically identical except for the pedals.

Ron

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That's why it's all about pedals. No pedal, no moped. A 50cc engine can just be a small motorcycle or a scooter. But the term pedals means something.

For example, what's the difference between a helicopter and an airplane? It's not jets. Some helicopters have jets on them as well as rotor blades. Some planes use propelers. Some even have wings that move up and lift vertically like a helicopter. The difference also isn't wings, since some jets have very small wings and some helicopters technically have small wings as well (e.g. the Apache). The crucial difference comes down to ONE thing: helicopters have two sets of rotor blades perpendicular to each other. No airplane has that.

So I stand by the one difference between scooters and mopeds: pedals. I would even contend that any motorized two or three-wheeler that used pedals to start or as an alternate means of propulsion is a moped.

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Ron Brown /

Miguel,

I agree completely, nowhere in mo-ped does it imply tw-wh.

Ron

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free mosquito /

excellent feedback guys

i learned a lot

for a bunch of guys who just like to ride small bikes, i guess we are an intelligent bunch of older, fun-loving kids

at least i like to think so

ride safe

ps: i have a 50 cc Kymco scooter that really looks like a hybrid between a moped and scooter mainly because it has 16 inch wheels.

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That kymco, is it the Mantis? I've seen it, it looks pretty cool. They're also a new Aprilla out there that's not too shabby. I'm still holding out for a cherry Vespa Grande, though! ;-)

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free mosquito /

Miguel

Before you buy anything you have to take a ride on the Kymco" People" model- it is very fast - 50 mph- smooth, and so quiet you can barely hear it run.

I even bought one for my wife and she loves it. ( and she is very picky )

It blows away the Mantis and everything else in its class !!!

ride safe

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I've heard good things about Kymco. But I'm still into mopeds. Don't get me wrong, I like scooters. My first moped/scooter was a Yamaha Razz. Dirty thieves stole it ... so then I got my Bianchi Snark. But now I'm in love w/ mopeds ...

RE: difference between mopeds and scooters

my moped doesn't have pedals though, and i wouldn't describe it as a scooter, maybe i'm wrong, its a 50cc Yamaha chappy, it has a 2 gearing system (low ratio and drive) and neutral, it also changes at 25kmph. but it doesn't have the distinctiveness of the scooters i'm thinking about i'm sure u know what the chappy's look like..hmm

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free mosquito /

i think the Chappy can be described as a true mini - bike

anything i can ride is fun

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It can also be a "mo-kick". That's a German term that's floating around to describe a kickstart moped (like many of the newer models, such as Tomos Targa). Something like the Honda Hobit might also qualify, since I remember it having only foot pegs. Or the 50cc Bridgestone ...

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hehe, think its more like a "Chicken Chaser" :)

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Harry Bullochs /

I think this one has already been beaten to death, but I might as well kick the corpse while it's still warm.

The whole moped/scooter thing is an issue of semantics.

In the eyes of the State, any two-wheeled vehicle of 50cc or less, designed for 30 mph or less, and used at 23 mph or less is a moped. Period. I care about this distinction because registering my moped costs me $20 and I can run it without insurance, and registering my scooter costs me $50, insurance and an inspection. Also, my moped registration is filled out in my own handwriting... how cool is that?

The pedal distinction is nice, but my roomate has a Yamaha QT50, which has a battery AND a kickstart, so that doesn't quite work out.

To further complicate the issue, the pedals were so useless on my Batavus that I removed them, disconnected the pedal chain, and mounted billet aluminum footpegs on the pedalshaft. I start it the way I always did- by pushing it down the street and popping the clutch.

So it's not a mo-PED by your theory, and it's not a mo-KICK, either. Is it a mo-PUSH?

I contend that it doesn't matter what you're sitting on, as long as it's Mo'. To me, the moped is the bastard child of the two-wheeled world. It has always been ostracized by those who think of it as too humble a form of transportation. It is also, thankfully, shunned by thieves in this area.

But the point is the bottom line- I can outwit cars, outlast motorcycles and scooters, and if I have engine trouble I can throw the damn thing over my shoulder and walk. And that to me is a moped- fear it.

Gimme Mo'... Swarm and destroy!

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Mopeds rule, that's obvious enough. But the legal distinctions are still tricky. I'm not sure what state makes the distinction between mopeds and scooters, that's kind of cool. But in Michigan, we have no such distinction. Scooters are called "mopeds" if they are 50cc. Any vehicle over 50cc is a "motorcycle" (even if it's a scooter). So, go figure!

I think the pedals are the think for semantics ... and I stick to it! ;-)

All Hail Mopeds!

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free mosquito /

i never thought id get so much input on this question, but im glad i did

ride safe you guys

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I agree with the pedal caracteristic...

Here in Canada, scooters are selling better than mopeds... the main reason is price and selection ! Can you believe that a TOMOS TargaLX costs even more than a Yamaha BW's (that's a Zuma II, in US). I would buy the scooter for the same price but would rather have the moped if it wasn't for the price !!! Our currency is so weak and no mopeds are made in Canada, that explains why mopeds here are not the best buy...

... and that's a shame !

Johann

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So anyway, the description I gave way back when came from the California Vehicle Code and pretty much agrees with what I have seen as the Federal description.

Now to really muddy the waters here, both my Vespa Grande and Solex 4600 have tags saying they are "motor driven cycles". They comply to the Moped description, but this tag says they are vehicles that California would require annual registration on. Mopeds here only require a one time registration for as long as you own it. And it's only five bucks.

Are we all clear now? ;)

Jim C.

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