Re: I have a facespace for one more week

> Full Tuck wrote:

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> > Graham Motzing wrote:

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> ...

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> > It's definitely not a hammer, it's more like antidepressants... They

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> > have their use but they are engineered to fuck with your brain. It's

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> > hard to make decisions about something when the thing itself is fuckin

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> > with ya like that.

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> ...

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> Don't underestimate the amount of effort Meta (owning company for

> Facebook and Instagram) is putting into social engineering. Both

> environments are designed to be addictive.

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> then on top of this, if you're a dickhead to someone in person, you

> might get shamed or punched in the face. But on the internet, you're far

> away and protected by the virtual barrier.

^ so MUCH this, totally changing the way people interact, NOTHING good about it at all! F Zuckerberg, in a way tough, it's not all on him, the government involvement has caused changes that he prob never thought about, he just wanted to make money, but now that everything on there is avail to the fed, he has to play by their rules to keep his company. All the "good" things about social media that people put forth as reasons to have it, like keeping in touch with family/pic sharing etc, were already avail on many other forms of communication, there was no need for social media at all. The term social engineering makes my skin crawl, but that's exactly what it is, and one day the people who grew up without social media will all be gone, and then their experiment will be complete. I still can't figure out to what end, maybe to be able to feed us "opinions" without having us talk amongst ourselves, and to learn from other real people who have had real experiences, and if we do talk to each other they can see every word of it. I pity you all. (edited)

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oh man, i love it. it's a dumpster fire and im running around with cans of gas

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> ◕ ‿ ◕ wrote:

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> Forums are social media as well, but we have the advantage of Simon

> being amazing and benevolent.

I way prefer my posts on here tho cuz people write out full sentences, paragraphs even, sometimes more (too much more...)

but i like that, feels more like a conversation and less just quick meaningless quipes and on to the next

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> Toledo Riot wrote:

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> Oh on a suggestion from Maize, I started a "Lovers Of SHA Carbs" page

> this morning, I was bored, we'll see how it goes

Outta curio I documented some of the scale and history. Most lovers of pages started around 2014. I mod sachs, honda sprees and shifty 50 and some others, and holy shit spree is the fastest growing by FAR, shit pops off.

But in chrono I think it goes

1) lovers of puch, started Jan 9 2014, 4.8k members (whenever I checked, maybe a year ago?)

2) lovers of V1, Jan 19 '14, 1k

2.5) lovers of mopeds are dumb and so is your face, 1/19/14

2.8) SACHS!! Jan 19 2014, 700 members

3) Hobbit, 1/20/14, 800

4) Vespa mopeds, 1/26/14

5) lovers of tomos, Feb 2014, 2.7k

6) Garelli, March 16 2014, 1.2k

7) Morini mopeds, March 19 2014, 390

8) Spree, Apr 2014, 2k (i know not moped but im heavy in it)

9) Kreidler, July 2014

10) Derbi Feb 2015, 1k

11) Peugeot, Oct 2016, 1k

12) Solex May 2017 - 3 members - LOL fuck solex haha

13) "lovers of mopeds collecting dust" Feb 2020

14) General 5 star and Lazer - Oct. 2020

15) Wallaroo - a few days ago, 20 members (there already a good dutch group tho and they'll answer in english if you got Q's...)

I probably missed a few, 50 shifty for sure, but neat to consider

Some interesting take-aways, puch is ENORMOUSLY most popular. I dont think theres a moby, which is surprising, and peugeot was way late.

others missing:

-Batavus?

-Flandria (i might be alone in there)

-JAWA?!

-Trac (hey it's one of the top 50 most visited wiki pages so maybe theres interest?)

-Indian (lolololol)

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Dirty30 Dillon /

I can do without marketplace, I have enough friends who are expert level watchers that I don't ever need to look at it. I also haven't bought a moped from a random person or website for years, but I guess I'm fortunate to have other options.

The draw for groups is pretty much negated by this site. I know the people here, whose voices and opinions are valuable and whose can be ignored. A quick search yields an easy verification of most facts and information, and I know that people who post here are not doing it specifically because it is "easy," but because it is a community and resource.

The people who find MA are people hopefully looking for answers and information, who are willing to log in and read 30+ pages on a single thread, or through the hundreds of wiki articles. And hopefully

Choosing to post here is a choice to add to that repository.

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Fb for me is mostly memes, trolling/stirring the pot and marketplace. I was using it for the urbex community and their groups but even that has turned to shit. I use messenger for group chats becuase its easy, but that's about it.

I like posting things in lovers of *insert moped manufacturer* or fake moped army that normal people wouldn't do, like the finger ports in a stock cylinder i just did or giant piston windows on treats kits. Gets people riled up. I got banned from lovers of french mopeds for calling muriatic acid the spicy way of cleaning your rusty tank and to wear protective gear. That was weird. I was genuinely giving advice that time, not being an asshole.

It really is aids though and I think marketplace is the only thing that truly keeps me on there at this point. It's killed craigslist and offer up is only good for finding your stolen bike.

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> Born to be WillD wrote:

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> I way prefer my posts on here tho cuz people write out full sentences,

> paragraphs even, sometimes more (too much more...)

I feel attacked.

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so there is a rizzatto, jawa AND batavus. wow i'm joining all of ems

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wow also it's been a while since i checked but oves of puch is up to almost 8000 members

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there’s also Lovers of French Mopeds which has like 2k

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> Matt Mulligan wrote:

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> Fb for me is mostly memes, trolling/stirring the pot and marketplace. I

> was using it for the urbex community and their groups but even that has

> turned to shit. I use messenger for group chats becuase its easy, but

> that's about it.

>

> I like posting things in lovers of *insert moped manufacturer* or fake

> moped army that normal people wouldn't do, like the finger ports in a

> stock cylinder i just did or giant piston windows on treats kits. Gets

> people riled up. I got banned from lovers of french mopeds for calling

> muriatic acid the spicy way of cleaning your rusty tank and to wear

> protective gear. That was weird. I was genuinely giving advice that

> time, not being an asshole.

>

> It really is aids though and I think marketplace is the only thing that

> truly keeps me on there at this point. It's killed craigslist and offer

> up is only good for finding your stolen bike.

Why do you enjoy "stirring the pot" this is a thing that confounds me, and I ask everyone who admits to it, just for my own curiosity.

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> Stephen Keller wrote:

> Why do you enjoy "stirring the pot" this is a thing that confounds me,

> and I ask everyone who admits to it, just for my own curiosity.

I don't know. I guess I just like to see uneducated people get mad and confused about things outside of their realm of imagination. Things people think are impossible or never going to work or overheat. Like the finger boost ports and big piston window. Facebook is loaded with morons and it's fun to mess with morons.

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I've never had a Facebook account. When it first started friends would bang about "it's great, you can get in touch with people you were a primary school with" and all I could think of was, there was a reason I hadn't kept in touch. My wife is on Facebook etc and I see the time it drags out of her for no real benefit, her 'friends' doctored photos of their amazingly and unbelievable perfect lives blah blah.

As for arguing with idiots I'm in camp:-

"Don't argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

Whether actually written by Mark Twain or no, it's definitely one of the commandments that I live by.

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EH 📣FCC of the QCB /

> Charlie BUZZARD wrote:

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> > Born to be WillD wrote:

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> >

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> > I way prefer my posts on here tho cuz people write out full sentences,

>

> > paragraphs even, sometimes more (too much more...)

>

> I feel attacked.

It’s okay. Your retired. You have time to write. Keep the novels coming.

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> Matt Mulligan wrote:

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> > Stephen Keller wrote:

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> > Why do you enjoy "stirring the pot" this is a thing that confounds

> me,

>

> > and I ask everyone who admits to it, just for my own curiosity.

>

> I don't know. I guess I just like to see uneducated people get mad and

> confused about things outside of their realm of imagination. Things

> people think are impossible or never going to work or overheat. Like the

> finger boost ports and big piston window. Facebook is loaded with morons

> and it's fun to mess with morons.

^ This is similar to many of the replies I get to this question, I have to say I just don't share that, or understand the enjoyment you (and many others) find it it? Can you elaborate any more? I mean there are morons everywhere, it's bad enough to deal with the ones in your real world/life, on social media you open yourself up to ALL of them, why would anyone want to do this? The whole idea of morons is to avoid them, at least that's how I came up. I will admit to being old, did not start using the internet until age 37, and 'am far from proficient with it, and don't understand many of the nuances, but I'm ok with that, we only really need the one reality, there is enough work living there.

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> Tom Boyd wrote:

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> I've never had a Facebook account. When it first started friends would

> bang about "it's great, you can get in touch with people you were a

> primary school with" and all I could think of was, there was a reason I

> hadn't kept in touch. My wife is on Facebook etc and I see the time it

> drags out of her for no real benefit, her 'friends' doctored photos of

> their amazingly and unbelievable perfect lives blah blah.

>

> As for arguing with idiots I'm in camp:-

>

> "Don't argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and

> beat you with experience"

>

> Whether actually written by Mark Twain or no, it's definitely one of the

> commandments that I live by.

^ Word! :)

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I couldnt find lovers of french which probably means i got kicked out, but I dont know why i wouldve been...

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There's a Lover's of Bye Bikes and there is one member.

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> > The term social engineering makes my skin crawl, but

> that's exactly what it is, and one day the people who grew up without

> social media will all be gone, and then their experiment will be

> complete. I still can't figure out to what end, maybe to be able to feed

> us "opinions" without having us talk amongst ourselves, and to learn

> from other real people who have had real experiences, and if we do talk

> to each other they can see every word of it. I pity you all.

They've succeeded, haven't they? When we do "talk amongst ourselves," how much of it is organic/objective reasoning vs the polarized parroting of spoonfed "official narratives?"

The social constructs and movements we value as a society are institutionally engineered and inorganic for the most part. Original opinions and free thought is rare. We are too divided by propagandized micro-level means of division to realize we live in a prison planet :-)

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> Born to be WillD wrote:

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> I couldnt find lovers of french which probably means i got kicked out,

> but I dont know why i wouldve been...

Im the head moderator for that page, I wouldnt let ya get the ban hammer, Ill check lol

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Well well well what did Will D do 6 years ago!? Either way I unblocked you

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> Just _ wrote:

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> micro-level means of division to realize we live in a prison planet :-)

What an original opinion.

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Hepatitis J [OFMC] /

> Graham Motzing wrote:

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> What an original opinion.

To be fair, the whole thread is old guys patting themselves on the back for canceling their Facebook accounts entirely too late while using some equally intrusive/disruptive browser to do so.

None of us have posted an original opinion yet.

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> Gator San Juan wrote:

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> There's a Lover's of Bye Bikes and there is one member.

<3

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EH 📣FCC of the QCB /

> ◕ ‿ ◕ wrote:

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> > Gator San Juan wrote:

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> > There's a Lover's of Bye Bikes and there is one member.

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> <3

One and only

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I’m an old guy that didn’t have to cancel because I never got it ha and my original opinion is I can’t miss what I never had (edited)

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> Stephen Keller wrote:

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> > Matt Mulligan wrote:

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> > > Stephen Keller wrote:

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> >

>

> > > Why do you enjoy "stirring the pot" this is a thing that confounds

>

> > me,

>

> >

>

> > > and I ask everyone who admits to it, just for my own curiosity.

>

> >

>

> > I don't know. I guess I just like to see uneducated people get mad and

>

> > confused about things outside of their realm of imagination. Things

>

> > people think are impossible or never going to work or overheat. Like

> the

>

> > finger boost ports and big piston window. Facebook is loaded with

> morons

>

> > and it's fun to mess with morons.

>

> ^ This is similar to many of the replies I get to this question, I have

> to say I just don't share that, or understand the enjoyment you (and

> many others) find it it? Can you elaborate any more? I mean there are

> morons everywhere, it's bad enough to deal with the ones in your real

> world/life, on social media you open yourself up to ALL of them, why

> would anyone want to do this? The whole idea of morons is to avoid them,

> at least that's how I came up. I will admit to being old, did not start

> using the internet until age 37, and 'am far from proficient with it,

> and don't understand many of the nuances, but I'm ok with that, we only

> really need the one reality, there is enough work living there.

I thought about this for a while and the only reason I can really come up with is boredom.

My trolling and stirring of the pot these days is mostly posting things in the moped groups to piss off purists and confuse others. I do occasionally get into debates in random comment sections, but the older I grow, the more I find myself starting then deleting a comment, because it's not worth my time and theres better things I can be doing.

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punkrock randy /

I treat FB like 7-up, I never have, I never will!

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> punkrock randy wrote:

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> I treat FB like 7-up, I never have, I never will!

Hey I like 7 up. Crisper than Sprite.

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> Toledo Riot wrote:

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> Well well well what did Will D do 6 years ago!? Either way I unblocked

> you

> >

I probably loved sachs even more.

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