Another throwback Honda coming back….

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Are the wheels smaller?

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> Full Tuck wrote:

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> Are the wheels smaller?

The original CT70 had 4.00 x 10” wheels. The new version also looks to have at least 10” wheels. (edited)

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12” wheels according to this article…..

https://newatlas.com/motorcycles/honda-minibike-2023-st125-dax/

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> Moped Lar wrote:

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> > Full Tuck wrote:

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> > Are the wheels smaller?

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> The original CT70 had 4.00 x 10” wheels. The new version also looks to

> have at least 10” wheels.

clicky the link, open the pics "in a new tab", and i see 120/70-12 on the tires. internet says 4.72 inches wide. nice.

yup, i like it.

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Pushrod Fifty /

Wow that is cool, I neeeed one!!

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It’s 30.5” height is the same as the Navi. That’s surprisingly tall for a mini bike. (edited)

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> Pushrod Fifty wrote:

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> Wow that is cool, I neeeed one!!

Me too! Hopefully, it’ll be available in the US in the not too distant future. I first gotta get rid of my Vespa GT 200 to make room in my garage for it…lol.

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Pushrod Fifty /

9.25hp with 4 speed auto clutch, sounds like fun. I like the upside down forks and the pipe, it's simple and streamlined. It looks tall and serious, not a minibike.

I saw this last night and thought how cool it would be.

https://worcester.craigslist.org/mcy/d/douglas-1972-honda-ct70/7458281495.html (edited)

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One gallon gas tank kinda sucks, but if it gets close to the advertised 150 mpg, it’s a non-issue. However, the Navi is supposed to get 110 mpg and the best I’ve gotten thus far is 75, so we’ll just have to see. (edited)

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Pushrod Fifty /

I noticed the 1 gal capacity, not a big deal. I can usually get up to 75mpg with a moped or modern bike but not much more. I think it's just a function of power needed to push around my 160lb with a restless throttle hand. The factory mpg ratings are for a featherweight rider at 35mph on a straight flat road I'm sure.

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Thats rad! If they can drop them right when the gap price is spiking they could sell em all!

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VERY cool, except for the taillight, fugly...but that could be fixed.

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Pushrod Fifty /

I would swap for a 70s one if that was the one it ended up with, but I imagine the US one will be bigger. I would expect to see some variants to meet different country specs.

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Unfortunately not really a throwback. EFI. No thanks. You can still get chinese copies of these that still have carburetors. https://tinyurl.com/5azr8tyr

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Pushrod Fifty /

I've never had a leaky EFI.

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I just drug my fuel injected 2020 KTM out of the barn, I didn't even have a battery tender on it this winter. Turned the key and she fired up with one tap of the button.

I'm just starting the process of unwinterizing about 130 cylinders worth of power equipment for the summer, almost every engine takes some fuckery and you can just about guarantee that a few of them will need new fuel lines, petcocks, primer bulbs, or stale gas that has to be flushed and dealt with. There is usually a fair bit of choking and fussing around the first time after sitting all winter.

Especially on the smaller single cylinder motorcycles, EFI and drive by wire is such a game changer. More torque and power everywhere, and much more control and tractability. If you ride a modern DBW 450 dirt bike you almost can't go back, the power delivery is amazing and it translates to such a good riding experience.

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Beach Club Nick /

> Gerald Scott wrote:

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> Unfortunately not really a throwback. EFI. No thanks. You can still get

> chinese copies of these that still have carburetors.

> https://tinyurl.com/5azr8tyr

If you want a bike that you have to fuck with then just buy an old CT70; if you want something that you know for certain you can ride to and from work every single day the new Dax is the move

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I don't use bikes (motorcycles, scooters, and mopeds) as transportation. They are a hobby. They have been for over 50 years. And working on them is just as much fun, if not more, than riding them. The new electronic stuff is so far removed from what I'm into that it is completely irrelevant to me. My hobby is VINTAGE internal combustion powered bikes and cars. Especially '70s and older stuff.

I have never ridden a "modern" dirt bike. I do have a 1994 Yamaha XT225 dual sport, and except for the CDI (I carry a spare one with me) it uses '70s technology. I've seen a few posts on here about the Yamaha TW200. They are one of the very few remaining new bikes that still use old technology.

I thought one of the main reasons to have mopeds was to tinker with them.

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Beach Club Nick /

> Gerald Scott wrote:

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> I thought one of the main reasons to have mopeds was to tinker with

> them.

It is, why would you drop $4-5k on a brand new mini moto if you wanted to work on it like a $200 moped? You can still tune/upgrade modern vehicles

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> Gerald Scott wrote:

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> I don't use bikes (motorcycles, scooters, and mopeds) as transportation.

> They are a hobby. They have been for over 50 years. And working on them

> is just as much fun, if not more, than riding them. The new electronic

> stuff is so far removed from what I'm into that it is completely

> irrelevant to me. My hobby is VINTAGE internal combustion powered bikes

> and cars. Especially '70s and older stuff.

>

> I have never ridden a "modern" dirt bike. I do have a 1994 Yamaha XT225

> dual sport, and except for the CDI (I carry a spare one with me) it uses

> '70s technology. I've seen a few posts on here about the Yamaha TW200.

> They are one of the very few remaining new bikes that still use old

> technology.

>

> I thought one of the main reasons to have mopeds was to tinker with

> them.

I would love to hear your opinion on electric bike/mopeds

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> CORN PED wrote:

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> > Gerald Scott wrote:

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> > I don't use bikes (motorcycles, scooters, and mopeds) as

> transportation.

>

> > They are a hobby. They have been for over 50 years. And working on

> them

>

> > is just as much fun, if not more, than riding them. The new electronic

>

> > stuff is so far removed from what I'm into that it is completely

>

> > irrelevant to me. My hobby is VINTAGE internal combustion powered

> bikes

>

> > and cars. Especially '70s and older stuff.

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> >

>

> > I have never ridden a "modern" dirt bike. I do have a 1994 Yamaha

> XT225

>

> > dual sport, and except for the CDI (I carry a spare one with me) it

> uses

>

> > '70s technology. I've seen a few posts on here about the Yamaha TW200.

>

> > They are one of the very few remaining new bikes that still use old

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> > technology.

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> > I thought one of the main reasons to have mopeds was to tinker with

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> > them.

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> I would love to hear your opinion on electric bike/mopeds

Definitely not for me. I'm a carbureted internal combustion guy through and through. I was born with gasoline in my blood and a wrench in my hand.

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Pushrod Fifty /

Would be great if Honda came out with a 70s moped, would have to be 4t I imagine but I think it would be a good seller.

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They will sell too. Seeing the originals going for $10k.

I don't have any adversion to FI.

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Riding an original one from the 70's is fun as hell, had no idea they were coming out again.

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It would be fun to swap everything over to an old frame.

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Pushrod Fifty /

The frame is the only thing that is like the old ones.

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Emil Kniemel /

> Gerald Scott wrote:

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> I don't use bikes (motorcycles, scooters, and mopeds) as transportation.

> They are a hobby. They have been for over 50 years. And working on them

> is just as much fun, if not more, than riding them. The new electronic

> stuff is so far removed from what I'm into that it is completely

> irrelevant to me. My hobby is VINTAGE internal combustion powered bikes

> and cars. Especially '70s and older stuff.

>

> I have never ridden a "modern" dirt bike. I do have a 1994 Yamaha XT225

> dual sport, and except for the CDI (I carry a spare one with me) it uses

> '70s technology. I've seen a few posts on here about the Yamaha TW200.

> They are one of the very few remaining new bikes that still use old

> technology.

>

> I thought one of the main reasons to have mopeds was to tinker with

> them.

yes i agree. the bringing something back to life and troubleshooting is something i actually enjoy. coupled with the ride experience. and the bonus is that i have a "vintage" vehicle and im too broke for cars and even motorcycles.

mopeds check off a lot more boxes for me than just riding on two wheels.

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