MOPED ARMY

All the boarders and flippers wanted out of the op is where that spotless bike is located. Then they can own it for themselves. Hiding under the cloak of some weird take on what a owner of a moped "owes" the "moped community". Again there are many reasons why moped army is on the decline. One is the inability to post complete bikes for sale without the incessant raging by a minority over monetary value. Take a good look at the other post of yours. The guy in Lafayette ( usually a very expensive place to live BTW it's the heart of upscale contra costa.county) on his profile not only has a super fine super perfect Hobbit but also a garage stuffed with motorized possessions. This whole set of "proletariat" diatribes are simply unbelievable. Oh and then he likens mopeds to Harley and vw collecting, which apparently he implies is in his past . Ya do know that if you happened to have hoarded a perfect 21 window vw bus, you have a 6 figure asset. That's what they all dream of. Every moped I own has at least $1000 of purchase price and parts in it. I assume that's often the norm unless you are in an area with barn finds. I've yet to ever see that locally.

Again Simon!!! Fix this ongoing braying. Set of a for sale.section for compete bikes without commentary on value. Let's give more people reason to use moped army instead of the usual 10 peeps.

As a new Moped Army member I'm not sure it's considered proper forum etiquette to hijack my own thread in an attempt get it back to the original topic.

I certainly wouldn't want to detract from the importance and relevance of the socioeconomic scholars' verbosity.

So at the potential risk of being considered impolite I'll feebly post something relevant to the original topic.

I do not know if the speedometer was replaced. If it was they were very careful in doing so and left no trace on fasteners.

It is certainly possible that it was carefully replaced.

In addition to the possible replacement of the speedometer it's possible that they also replaced the pedals, the side cover / floorboards, the grips, the seat, the exhaust system, and all other parts that would show wear.

I do know that it was made in Lawrenceburg, Tennessee about 34 miles from Lewisburg, Tennesse where I acquired it.

I can understand how, without actually seeing it in person, someone would doubt that the odometer reading is actual, and that's their prerogative.

However, old things in virtually unused condition do on occasion show up.

In the January Mecum auction they will offer a 1981 Yamaha SR500 that's still in the crate.

https://silodrome.com/yamaha-sr500-in-crate/

Some years back an early 80's Kawasaki KZ250 fresh from the crate was offered for sale in the Tennessean.

At that time I was still into real motorcycles and a 250 wasn't even considered as a possible bike for my wife (who had ridden my original 1973 Kawasaki Z1 after I got a new 1981 Kawasaki GPz 1100) but the "fresh from the crate" intrigued me so we went to look at it for a possible curiosity purchase.

It was indeed fresh from the crate, a crate that had been stored in a New England warehouse along the sea cost for 30 or so years.

The salt air moisture had gotten into the crate and the corrosion was horrific.

At any rate I can't verify (and don't really care) if this Murray Puch is the last one made or not.

I can say, having owned scores of real motorcycles (both new and used, both personal and ones in my shop for sale), that it's a very clean old moped and that its overall condition in no wise contradicts the seller's claim that the odometer reading is correct .

Cheers

H K

Again they just want the address.

Nobody cares.

Cool, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

It's none of anyone's business what someone asks for their property, don't like the price? Don't buy it, simple as that.

I suggest you look up the literal definition of a "forum"

I absolutely don't agree that we - as a community - should be taking to battle anyone who sells a bike for more than what a community member is willing to pay.

I don't pay 800+ for a maxi, but I can heartily say that a running riding Maxi in NYC/Tri-state will sell in hours for asking at that price.

Then again, I don't really have any need for a maxi, tomos, etc.

If you post on a forum, it's going to start a discussion. That's what the entire purpose of a forum is. This isn't a marketplace site. It's a hobbyist discussion site that also has a Buy/Sell section, but that section isn't a substitute for eBay, OfferUp, Facebook Marketplace.

A lot of people on this forum would prefer that the Buy/Sell be a space for fellow hobbyist to barter and trade parts to keep the community of builders alive. It rankles some to see people trying to flip bikes and turn a quick profit at the expense of the community. Those types of sales probably more properly belong on marketplace sites to reach a wider audience. But nobody is preventing sellers from posting inflated prices in the forum. They are simply commenting about the prices posted, which, again, is the point of a forum.

Post in a forum, people will post their opinions. Don't know what's hard to understand about that.

And furthermore I'm totally proud of the fact that you were able to scour up all of these mopeds in the Midwest and now you have an amazing collection. And those 32 mopeds that you have that are in good shape when you fix them up are worth $50,000 and you should be you should be proud that you were able to turn an investment so successfully and you deserve the profits of it and if you want to give a bunch of them away more power to you it certainly is going to make you feel great when you give things away to people who appreciate getting them. And you even makes a bigger impression on someone when you give them something that's worth that much.

I am specifically saying I would not do that

I have a Garelli Rally Sport with 36 miles on the odometer--didn't believe it until I pulled off the flywheel. Looks totally NOS inside especially on the cam where the block on the points rub--no wear! Just saying, there are ways to debunk some of those speculator low-miles scams.

F U C K

T H A T

Mopeds are not an investment. This is a totally sick way to look at our hobby. (edited)

^ Man, you seem REALLY uptight about this, and to a degree, I can really see where you are coming from, BUT, things cost more now, that is not to say seeing something for a crazy amount over what it really should cost is "right", example, I bought my Hobbit for $250.00 23 yrs ago, when I had no money at all, it has followed me through thick and thin for 23 yrs, the market for un-molested stock bikes has climbed, I say it is worth 1k right now, and I don't care if you think that is out of line, it has a clean tank, modern tires and runs well, could prob use a new plug, but don't care, it runs, I ride my scooter much more. Said scooter is more of a pita as well, Honda's rock. Now, if I knew a person who needed it to get to work and help themselves out I would sell it to them cheaper, or in the right circumstance give it to them, might even pay for 6month insurance in their name so they could be legal until they got on their feet, (it's like 70 buck a year) I have empathy for people in need, I have been in my life as well, but I never asked for anything, I made it myself. That is not to say others could not use a hand up. If you can afford to help and do, my hat is off to you, but there is also no foul in asking for what the local market bears for a bike. If you do it and laugh at an acquaintance that needs help, yeah, dick move, but if you are just not using a bike and would rather see it used, ask market value, I agree the 2k Hobbit is nuts, but what would be more nuts is if someone bought it, maybe the seller would be so happy to have the money? We don't know others situations, in my mind, if some one pays it and you don't take it, you are the foolish one. If you really feel the need to give back, take the 2k, lets say you bought the bike for 400, put a hundred into it, take the 500, and use the other 1,500 to either buy more, or give the money to someone in need, making money is not a sin, what you choose to do with it can be, or it can be used for other good things, or you can pay your rent, or party or do whatever you choose, making money is no sin. I like you man, but I think you need to relax a bit. Mopeds are not a social statement, and as mentioned above, you have 32 of them? Why have you not given them all away yet? While I accept you are not viewing them as an investment, neither 'am I, but I'am very willing to accept a fair price for mine, I'm down to 2 and one scooter, I just can't see the tension about pricing you have. I'm not slamming on you, but I don't share your view either, and not everyone who owns's these bikes does either. I guess I just don't think that makes us suck either? Any used motor vehicle is worth what another is willing to pay for it. I'm really trying to be civil here, as I understand your view, but I'm hoping you can see others point as well? Not everyone who comes into a moped is into moped lyfe... ? Does that make sense?

How does one own 32 mopeds and then play price police (key emphasis on COP 👮‍♀️) on an Internet forum?

And claim communism

And practice unhealthy in-group bullying and trying to silence people who disagree

GET OFF THE FORUM 😂