1982 Murray Puch - 1 Mile On Odometer

I occasionally go by a used car dealership in a small town close to me.

He has an outdoor lot and across the street he has an old dealership building where he has some of his vintage cars stored.

I happened to get stopped at the light by the old dealership building and glanced over at the showroom to see what he had on display this week.

Peeking out from a wall into the big window was the front half of a Moped.

The engine looked very much line my 1978 Puch Maxi Luxe.

The light changed and I had to move on but decided to stop on the way home and take a look at it.

It's a silver Murray Puch.

Just for kicks I walked over to the lot office to inquire about it.

The lot owner wasn't there but one of his employees had some paperwork on it.

It's a 1978 that has 1 mile on the odometer.

According to the employee his boss bought it from a guy who had worked at the Murry facility who had "acquired" it new and never rode it.

The asking price is $1,500.

After I showed him a picture of my Maxi Luxe on my phone the employee asked if I wanted to go over and take a look at it.

I told him not at $1,500 and he asked at what price I might be interested.

I told him that I had to do some research.

As I mentioned in my original Maxi Luxe post it was given to me.

The dealer is pretty well off.

He has a decent size lot with no junk and then several nice old vintage cars in the one building that I know of.

I'm more curious as to what a realistic value is than actually buying it, especially at $1,500.

What think ye?

H K

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I think at $1,500 it would be a good investment. I can't see it going down in value if it's in mint museum quality condition. Might be too nice to ride though. Prices on any bike have been greatly inflated recently and the nice ones are advertised at over 2K in Canada. Your market is different but $1500 seems reasonable to me. If you can get it for two or three hundred less it would be a excellent deal. That being said my advice and two bucks will get you a coffee...Good luck.

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Mopeds are not investments, especially extremely common types like Puchs. $1500 is way too high.

If it's in literally perfect brand-new condition I could see paying like half that, but come on, it's just a murray.

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Did you start it up?

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Beach Club Nick /

If you are going to buy it and keep it and never ride it, pay $1000 now and it might net you $5k at auction 10-20 years from now. If you want a bike to ride, leave it. Getting it running will involve rebuilding the motor, and for $1000+ there are plenty of fast mopeds that are already rebuilt.

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Probably Fred /

Murray’s are good heavy duty bikes that come with 14mm bings, with just a filter and front sprocket change they go 40mph,

I wish I kept mine. it was a clean low mile bike. I bought mine it at a farm equipment sale for $100 but that was several years ago,

They were a pretty popular brand and some were sold at bike stores that sold Murray bicycles, There are still many out there in good shape, Nice ones go for around $500-650 nowadays

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I paid close to 800 for my Murray with 2 extra carbs and stuff.

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Hi Herman, what dealership was it at? I'd be interested, I love low mile bikes. Thanks!

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I did make an investment on this Maggie. Bought it for 800$ enjoyed it & three weeks later flipped it for 1600$. It was a true classic Flipper story👍 Invested no money, except the purchase price only. Oh, I did give it a bath.> Brian F wrote:

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> Mopeds are not investments, especially extremely common types like

> Puchs. $1500 is way too high.

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> If it's in literally perfect brand-new condition I could see paying like

> half that, but come on, it's just a murray

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Probably Fred /

> Road Kill wrote:

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> I did make an investment on this Maggie. Bought it for 800$ enjoyed it &

> three weeks later flipped it for 1600$. It was a true classic Flipper

> story👍 Invested no money, except the purchase price only. Oh, I did give

> it a bath.> Brian F wrote:

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> > Mopeds are not investments, especially extremely common types like

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> > Puchs. $1500 is way too high.

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> >

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> > If it's in literally perfect brand-new condition I could see paying

> like

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> > half that, but come on, it's just a murray.

Ya Should’ve kept it,

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Good luck finding a hydraulic suspension Magnum that price again,

A E50 on a mkll is meh, you should’ve sold off the Kitted e50, carb, pipe took the money and got a za50 for it and still be money ahead because a nice clean two speed version could go for big bucks nowadays,

Paper money is worth less and less every day, thanks to our socialist new green deal government and Since they have a war on oil companies/producers the price of gasoline is going through the roof.

Good thing there’s mopeds!

Mopeds will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no mopeds) (fabulous fury freak brothers ha, ha)

Bartering is going to be the best way of making a transaction. I and many locals are already doing it.

Funny this is almost the same thing when the peanut farmer was president when I was just becoming an adult so that’s good. I’m a young guy again!

I was lucky to have a moped then and I’m lucky to have mopeds now.

Hopefully I don’t have to invest in another another Carhart type winter suit because I may be driving mopeds this winter to save on ⛽️!

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If it was a GREEN Murray then MAYBE

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That was only 5+ years ago, It was a beautifully tuned & fast kitted bike. I have about 100 vintage mopeds of all kinds now in my large pole barn. About 35-40 of them are Puch, all bought when you could buy them dirt cheap (& few of them free) years ago (C.L.) Magnums and Maxis of all kinds. Life has thrown me a curve ball lately & haven't had much time to do much with them.

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Flippers fucking suck.

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> Brian F wrote:

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> Flippers fucking suck.

This^

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Tri-ped Dave O.D.B. /

Hi Herman,

Puchs have recently skyrocketed in price. This might be a permanent thing, or may just be a pandemic burp. Only time will tell. That being said, price is very much geographic. In NYC or SoCal this Murray, even with several thousand miles on it and plenty of blemishes would sell for $1500 If it is a true 1 mile survivor, in pristine shape and running, It is actually not too far off in price, even for Tennessee. I personally would never pay that much, but if you can score it for $1200 or less, and keep it pristine and super low miles, I know you cannot get hurt on it, even if prices drop

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> Tri-ped Dave O.D.B. wrote:

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> Hi Herman,

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> Puchs have recently skyrocketed in price. This might be a permanent

> t thing, or may just be a pandemic burp. Only time will tell.

Prices are falling dramatically in the midwest as the season turns (this is typical), but puch prices also didn't skyrocket out here. Sure, there are some asshole flippers listing their bikes for astronomical prices, but with a little patience it's still possible to get a nice running puch for a few hundred bucks.

A few weeks ago our club got a very nice '86 (IIRC; late model either way) maxi for $200 delivered.

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Tri-ped Dave O.D.B. /

Way different on the two coasts. Simple Maxis actually selling for over $1000. Makes no sense whatsoever. Auction sites like Bring a Trailer and Ebay have actually had $3k sales on really pristine ones. Again, makes no sense.

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Bring a Trailer is a special kind of idiocy.

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Probably Fred /

> Tri-ped Dave O.D.B. wrote:

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> Way different on the two coasts. Simple Maxis actually selling for over

> $1000. Makes no sense whatsoever. Auction sites like Bring a Trailer

> and Ebay have actually had $3k sales on really pristine ones. Again,

> makes no sense.

Does anything on the coasts make any sense anyway? (edited)

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> Brian F wrote:

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> Bring a Trailer is a special kind of idiocy.

^ Yes and no, it is just for very wealthy people, it's nothing to pay 3k for a Maxi if you make over a 100k a year plus and had one as a kid and just want one "because", in reality these are the people you WANT as customers if you are selling something, you can get top dollar. The flip side of this of course is if you are personally doing ok, like not selling the bike to make rent, do you sell it for max bucks, or sell it cheap to someone you know who could really use affordable transportation? That's your call as the owner, but if you don't know anyone in need, why not make the money?

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✝️TD-THE MORAL AUTHORITY✝️ ✨ /

Fascinating discourse 😂

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Stepben, well said. I always sold my bikes for cheap. Hundreds of them ended up in the hands of folks who couldn’t afford them otherwise. Not everyone in this community is money hungry.

> Stephen Keller wrote:

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> > Brian F wrote:

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> > Bring a Trailer is a special kind of idiocy.

>

> ^ Yes and no, it is just for very wealthy people, it's nothing to pay 3k

> for a Maxi if you make over a 100k a year plus and had one as a kid and

> just want one "because", in reality these are the people you WANT as

> customers if you are selling something, you can get top dollar. The flip

> side of this of course is if you are personally doing ok, like not

> selling the bike to make rent, do you sell it for max bucks, or sell it

> cheap to someone you know who could really use affordable

> transportation? That's your call as the owner, but if you don't know

> anyone in need, why not make the money? (edited)

Re: 1982 Murray Puch - 1 Mile On Odometer

Herman Kantz /

After a couple of attempts I was able to get with the owner and he opened up the showroom and let me take a look at it.

It's a 1982 with currently 1.4 miles on the odometer.

It has the 1.5 HP E50.

This is what I was told about the bike and at this point I can't verify if it's all true.

(I can only share as true that which I actually saw.)

The bike is supposedly the last Murray Puch that came off the assembly line.

The original owner was a worker at Murray of Ohio and some how acquired the bike.

(Murray of Ohio got their start in Cleveland, Ohio but later had a facility in Brentwood, TN and also in Lawrenceburg, TN. At this time I do not know where the Murray Puchs were made though I'm confident some forum member does.)

As a retired automotive die-maker I've seen thousands of stamped parts and looking at the inside of the tank (with a high lumen light) it looked like is just came of the end of the line with absolutely NO rust.

It had a pint or so of gas in it.

I was told by the the car dealer that the guy who sold it to him put gas in it and started it for him to see it run. Supposedly it had never had fuel in it or had been started (since it left the factory) until it was started for him to look at.

Not knowing the quality of the gas & oil mix I chose to not start it.

It has very good compression.

The tires are VERY weather checked and will need to be replaced.

It had a light coat of dust but I saw no rust on it anywhere.

It was obviously stored in decent conditions these almost 40 years.

Cosmetically it is almost perfect having a very few (as we say in the gun trading business) handling marks that I believe will clean up with some careful detailing.

Thanks to all the folks who offered up opinions (on both ends of the pendulum).

When I get time I'll post some decent pictures of it.

The dealer has the contact info for the guy he bought it from so I plan on contacting him and trying to get some more history of its background.

Cheers

H K

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> Stephen Keller wrote:

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> > Brian F wrote:

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> > Bring a Trailer is a special kind of idiocy.

>

> ^ Yes and no, it is just for very wealthy people, it's nothing to pay 3k

> for a Maxi if you make over a 100k a year plus and had one as a kid and

> just want one "because", in reality these are the people you WANT as

> customers if you are selling something, you can get top dollar. The flip

> side of this of course is if you are personally doing ok, like not

> selling the bike to make rent, do you sell it for max bucks, or sell it

> cheap to someone you know who could really use affordable

> transportation? That's your call as the owner, but if you don't know

> anyone in need, why not make the money?

Yeah, prioritizing profits over people is the #1 problem with late-stage capitalism.

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Wow. Late stage capitalism vs having hoarded over a 100 minty mopeds vs some war on gasoline....some kind of weird fog over the Midwest ?? Let's all get paranoid but pick your obsession.

Best thing I read today is not the above...it's on embn where they visit the polini factory...no not to look at two stroke performance kits...to look at their new ebike motor. Go polini!! We may love mopeds but most of the excitement is in non fossil fuel things. Watch Munro. The Chinese are coming to destroy the stupidly backward over indebted legacy car makers...that means you in the Midwest. Then you can cry it's something to do with illegals at the border....go put your maga hats on backwards. Comrades.

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> Marc Friedman wrote:

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> Wow. Late stage capitalism vs having hoarded over a 100 minty mopeds vs

> some war on gasoline....some kind of weird fog over the Midwest ?? Let's

> all get paranoid but pick your obsession.

>

> Best thing I read today is not the above...it's on embn where they visit

> the polini factory...no not to look at two stroke performance kits...to

> look at their new ebike motor. Go polini!! We may love mopeds but

> most of the excitement is in non fossil fuel things. Watch Munro. The

> Chinese are coming to destroy the stupidly backward over indebted legacy

> car makers...that means you in the Midwest. Then you can cry it's

> something to do with illegals at the border....go put your maga hats on

> backwards. Comrades.

Well that sure is some word salad.

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I thought you would like it.

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✝️TD-THE MORAL AUTHORITY✝️ ✨ /

> Marc Friedman wrote:

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> Wow. Late stage capitalism vs having hoarded over a 100 minty mopeds vs

> some war on gasoline....some kind of weird fog over the Midwest ?? Let's

> all get paranoid but pick your obsession.

>

> Best thing I read today is not the above...it's on embn where they visit

> the polini factory...no not to look at two stroke performance kits...to

> look at their new ebike motor. Go polini!! We may love mopeds but

> most of the excitement is in non fossil fuel things. Watch Munro. The

> Chinese are coming to destroy the stupidly backward over indebted legacy

> car makers...that means you in the Midwest. Then you can cry it's

> something to do with illegals at the border....go put your maga hats on

> backwards. Comrades.

I like that you recognize there are some people claiming communism and using the language, yet they are no comrade. You seem to get it though

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Tri-ped Dave O.D.B. /

I still kinda prefer individual freedom over government run everything. Silly me.

But back to the Murray. Are you sure the speedo has not been replaced? I have some vintage mopeds same age that were indoor stored with under 15 original miles and the tires are NOT weather checked. Check the cable where it mounts to the sending unit for wrench marks. I have heard so many claims on mopeds over the years as to their origin and history, most were debunked. Most were also unintentional and not a scam attempt, but bunk nonetheless.

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> Tri-ped Dave O.D.B. wrote:

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> I still kinda prefer individual freedom over government run everything.

> Silly me.

Me too, that's why I'm an ancom, not an authcom.

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