Hitch and carrier

Just bought a hitch to put on my car and I like the carrier at harbor freight but I want to carry 2 bikes. Anyone have recommendations that don't involve an axle and wheels?

Like the photo.

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Chad Tufts /

Never mind, just bought this.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rrr-amc-600-2?seid=srese1&gclid=CjwKCAjwkvWKBhB4EiwA-GHjFvhy1GAokrURjIRpUAGjR-JF8cBtK9EgV0oFQFc-T9NzD8fGCYIxJhoCXqcQAvD_BwE

harbor freight is 160 for 1 bike, I'll pay to take 2 bikes for a kid or buddy. the one on Amazon for under 200 is out of stock... (edited)

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Should be fine assuming you have a heavy duty hitch, the fact it acts as a lever since it extends past multiplies the weight acting on it so you probably need at least a 350-400 pound tongue weight limit to carry two mopeds.

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Chad Tufts /

The hitch I got is class 1 up to 2500 lbs, the carrier plus a maxi and puch murray will be less than 300 and the 2 bike carrier has a load limit of 600 lbs, well under 2 mopeds. :) I'm super excited!!!! (edited)

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Towing capacity does not equal tongue weight.

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Mike McScoutington /

> Jacob Fulton wrote:

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> Towing capacity does not equal tongue weight.

^This

One of the first things they teach you when you get your hilo certification is load center. You are significantly moving your load center away from you hitch increase tongue weight. Make sure your hitch/vehicle are correctly rated. You can easily calculate you tongue load to make sure you are good. (edited)

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Chad Tufts /

> Jacob Fulton wrote:

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> Towing capacity does not equal tongue weight.

Yeah before I ordered I noticed the tongue weight.... Damn..

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Just for reference, our Honda Element has a tongue weight of 150 lbs. I have a custom made, predominately aluminum “Tow-ped” that weighs in at about 25 pounds. That, plus my Snark, weigh in at about 150 lbs total. That’s the most I would carry on the back of my Element. Your car probably has a lower tongue weight rating than my Element. (edited)

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Dirty30 Dillon /

Also, those long double hitches are WOBBLY AF.

I have this one and it rules, even for bigger bikes. I've slapped two mopeds and a bicycle onto it comfortably.

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Wobbling can easily be prevented by using a device like the one in the pic. I have one for my Versahaul carrier and it works great. No wobble whatsoever and they are very inexpensive. Under $20 online.

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> Dirty30 Dillon wrote:

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> Also, those long double hitches are WOBBLY AF.

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> I have this one and it rules, even for bigger bikes. I've slapped two

> mopeds and a bicycle onto it comfortably. (edited)

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Chad Tufts /

I am getting the one from harbor freight.

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Did you calculate or research the tongue weight of your car?

> Chad Tufts wrote:

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> I am getting the one from harbor freight.

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Chad Tufts /

> Moped Lar wrote:

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> Did you calculate or research the tongue weight of your car?

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> > Chad Tufts wrote:

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> > I am getting the one from harbor freight.

Yeah, the tongue weight on the hitch I bought is 200lbs. The carrier weighs 50 so I'll be good with the carrier and 1 moped.

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Dirty30 Dillon /

You realize that that hitch has a 2" Class 3/4 receiver, so you will need an adapter to mount to your 1" Class 1 hitch?

To Lar's point, those do help with wobble, but the long aluminum racks jut have a lot of torsional twist that just can't be avoided.

Adding in the adapter to make that hitch even more teetery.

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Chad Tufts /

Yeah I got the adaptor as well, I didn't see a class 2 or 3 hitch for a 2021 Corolla.. I'm thinking about a small pull behind so I can take 2.

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I chuckles at the tow hitch carried dirtbike on the back of a large empty pickup

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Chad Tufts /

> Born to be WillD wrote:

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> I chuckles at the tow hitch carried dirtbike on the back of a large

> empty pickup

HAHA!! For one I should have bought a truck instead of the Corolla.. And I noticed his empty bed as well!

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campeona del mundo /

2" to 1.25" reducer is janky because it messes up your departure angles and adds a ton of leverage to the whole thing BUT ive seen tons of people rock them. i never felt comfortable so i just welded up my own 1.25" hauler. they're pretty easy to make from scratch if you have basic metal fab skills.

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> Chad Tufts wrote:

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> The hitch I got is class 1 up to 2500 lbs, the carrier plus a maxi and

> puch murray will be less than 300 and the 2 bike carrier has a load

> limit of 600 lbs, well under 2 mopeds. :) I'm super excited!!!!

I don't think your hitch is big enough. You need a class III

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Chad Tufts /

> Don Ohio wrote:

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> > Chad Tufts wrote:

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> > The hitch I got is class 1 up to 2500 lbs, the carrier plus a maxi and

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> > puch murray will be less than 300 and the 2 bike carrier has a load

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> > limit of 600 lbs, well under 2 mopeds. :) I'm super excited!!!!

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> I don't think your hitch is big enough. You need a class III

I didn't get the 2 bike carrier. :)

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Chad Tufts /

Tomorrow will look better with a raised hitch adaptor.. lol its wider than the car.

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Chad Tufts /

> campeona del mundo wrote:

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> 2" to 1.25" reducer is janky because it messes up your departure angles

> and adds a ton of leverage to the whole thing BUT ive seen tons of

> people rock them. i never felt comfortable so i just welded up my own

> 1.25" hauler. they're pretty easy to make from scratch if you have basic

> metal fab skills.

Your set up looks really nice!! I would make something like that if I had welding equipment.

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Chad Tufts /

> campeona del mundo wrote:

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> 2" to 1.25" reducer is janky because it messes up your departure angles

> and adds a ton of leverage to the whole thing BUT ive seen tons of

> people rock them. i never felt comfortable so i just welded up my own

> 1.25" hauler. they're pretty easy to make from scratch if you have basic

> metal fab skills.

That looks amazing!!

I did get a hitch adaptor that raised it up 4 inches, but I would love to weld together what you have!

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I have the same hf hitch it works. For more support stability You can always add a couple ratchet straps to your car. Im thinking of 2 mopeds somehow and possible answer is a 2" hitch in the front...

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Chad Tufts /

> pat splat wrote:

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> I have the same hf hitch it works. For more support stability You can

> always add a couple ratchet straps to your car. Im thinking of 2 mopeds

> somehow and possible answer is a 2" hitch in the front...

Yeah I really want to take 2 bikes around..

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🎨🏆 Duncan /
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I welded the adapter from harbor freight to this big heavy shelf of a rack and it works well enough for now. I’ve even hauled an Rd50 for two hours at freeway speed on it but wouldn’t max it out like that again. Sometimes it’s helpful to use a strap from the carrier to your roof rack just to relieve some of the weight on the tongue.

WillC, I love your setup and am inspired to get some steel stock and design something new. Nice work.

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