Re: Hobbit stage 6

> Dirty30 Dillon wrote:

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> > Nick / Ratbone wrote:

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> > > Id build one, but just Str8 dislike hobbits

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> > I couldn't even begin to understand why someone wouldn't like a hobbit

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> > haha. Unbelievable performers when built right. Everyone has their own

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> > thang I suppose.

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> A) poor subframe design is whack

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> B) Lack of properly designed aftermarket intakes is really huge

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> C) Icky front clutch: if I wanted a DV bike with front clutch I would

> choose Derbi everytime and gain a lot from that choice

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> All that said single speed hobbits are cute, have and would own another.

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> I'd rather build a liquid cooled Derbi or Vespa any day of the week,

> otherwise.

I don't think there's anything too wacky with the subframe but intakes are a pain for sure. Hopefully one day I can ride with a fast derbi and compare. But idk, my stage 6 hobbit will probably touch 80mph when I test/tune it this week. It pulled my arms out of their sockets to 73mph on it's first ride. So I AM hearing you, but I'm also not, understandably. (edited)

Re: Hobbit stage 6

Edward Rosario /

73mph going God mode on a hobbit !!!,

what size carb you have ?

what clutch springs do you use ?

did you change the rear gear ?

Did you use the weight on the flywheel?

I’m waiting on vforce reeds and a few other parts before I actually start to tune it.

I’ve heard about those derby …!!!! If I didn’t have 3 bikes I would Deff get one. But I have no storage space

Re: Hobbit stage 6

> Edward Rosario wrote:

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> 73mph going God mode on a hobbit !!!,

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> what size carb you have ?

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> what clutch springs do you use ?

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> did you change the rear gear ?

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> Did you use the weight on the flywheel?

>

> I’m waiting on vforce reeds and a few other parts before I actually

> start to tune it.

>

> I’ve heard about those derby …!!!! If I didn’t have 3 bikes I would Deff

> get one. But I have no storage space

I kept the build pretty mild for streetability and reliability. Still rips of course, but that stage 6 kit can probably handle a 28-30mm flat slide carb if you wanted top end power. I am running a 24mm round slide polini CP along with a short throw 24mm intake I made. I'm running a euro clutch now but previously I was just running my Tig welded stock clutches with red malossi springs. Malossi race gears/hybrid ceramic bearings in rear trans. No weight on flywheel, euro clutch is rather heavy.

Good luck with your build!

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Re: Hobbit stage 6

Emil Kniemel /

> Nick / Ratbone wrote:

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> > Dirty30 Dillon wrote:

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> > Id build one, but just Str8 dislike hobbits

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> I couldn't even begin to understand why someone wouldn't like a hobbit

> haha. Unbelievable performers when built right. Everyone has their own

> thang I suppose.

I had only owned a hobbit for my first and only moped for about 8 years. i built up maybe like 3 or 4 of them (from stock fixer uppers to just solid 70cc runners). never went all out with scooter kits or liquid cooled. then i got a flatreed derbi and sold my hobbits.

the only thing i dont like about them is the short subframe and that you are tied to that because of the length of the belt. also the top shock mount bolt position. when you stretch it, it always leaves this huge head to front wheel gap and your seat is often typically sitting behind the shocks.

but of course when you go stage 6 and have an radiator it fills that void and looks great!

Re: Hobbit stage 6

> Emil Kniemel wrote:

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> > Nick / Ratbone wrote:

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> > > Dirty30 Dillon wrote:

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> > > Id build one, but just Str8 dislike hobbits

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> > I couldn't even begin to understand why someone wouldn't like a hobbit

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> > haha. Unbelievable performers when built right. Everyone has their own

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> > thang I suppose.

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> I had only owned a hobbit for my first and only moped for about 8 years.

> i built up maybe like 3 or 4 of them (from stock fixer uppers to just

> solid 70cc runners). never went all out with scooter kits or liquid

> cooled. then i got a flatreed derbi and sold my hobbits.

>

> the only thing i dont like about them is the short subframe and that you

> are tied to that because of the length of the belt. also the top shock

> mount bolt position. when you stretch it, it always leaves this huge

> head to front wheel gap and your seat is often typically sitting behind

> the shocks.

>

> but of course when you go stage 6 and have an radiator it fills that

> void and looks great!

Yeah I think most people go waaaaaay overboard with the stretch, I only went 1.25" on my metrakit hobbit (rear wheel centered within fender) and 1.5" on the stage 6.

Not sure why people are doing 4"+.

Moving the subframe back a bit does give you more intake room and helps stability and keeps the power wheelies at bay.

I've built dozens of hobbits, and only felt the need to go h20 because I have gotten the hobbit recipe down to somewhat of a science., And I'll be able to fully utilize the performance.

Re: Hobbit stage 6

> Nick / Ratbone wrote:

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> > Edward Rosario wrote:

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> > 73mph going God mode on a hobbit !!!,

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> >

>

> > what size carb you have ?

>

> >

>

> > what clutch springs do you use ?

>

> >

>

> > did you change the rear gear ?

>

> >

>

> > Did you use the weight on the flywheel?

>

> >

>

> > I’m waiting on vforce reeds and a few other parts before I actually

>

> > start to tune it.

>

> >

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> > I’ve heard about those derby …!!!! If I didn’t have 3 bikes I would

> Deff

>

> > get one. But I have no storage space

>

> I kept the build pretty mild for streetability and reliability. Still

> rips of course, but that stage 6 kit can probably handle a 28-30mm flat

> slide carb if you wanted top end power. I am running a 24mm round slide

> polini CP along with a short throw 24mm intake I made. I'm running a

> euro clutch now but previously I was just running my Tig welded stock

> clutches with red malossi springs. Malossi race gears/hybrid ceramic

> bearings in rear trans. No weight on flywheel, euro clutch is rather

> heavy.

>

> Good luck with your build!

Jesus Christ that's an incredible build

Re: Hobbit stage 6

Justabunchoftrash 646260 /

> Edward Rosario wrote:

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> I highly doubt it. Since bought the frame for $80 and bought another

> puch just to swap all the parts. Then I bought Al the pieces on

> Treatland and put tot together. Plus I live in mass. Gheesh

Yea I don’t live in Massachusetts…..

Re: Hobbit stage 6

Justabunchoftrash 646260 /

> * wormdirt * wrote:

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> > Nick / Ratbone wrote:

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> > > Edward Rosario wrote:

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> > > 73mph going God mode on a hobbit !!!,

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> > > what size carb you have ?

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> > > what clutch springs do you use ?

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> > > did you change the rear gear ?

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> > > Did you use the weight on the flywheel?

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> > > I’m waiting on vforce reeds and a few other parts before I actually

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> > > start to tune it.

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> > > I’ve heard about those derby …!!!! If I didn’t have 3 bikes I would

>

> > Deff

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> >

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> > > get one. But I have no storage space

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> >

>

> > I kept the build pretty mild for streetability and reliability. Still

>

> > rips of course, but that stage 6 kit can probably handle a 28-30mm

> flat

>

> > slide carb if you wanted top end power. I am running a 24mm round

> slide

>

> > polini CP along with a short throw 24mm intake I made. I'm running a

>

> > euro clutch now but previously I was just running my Tig welded stock

>

> > clutches with red malossi springs. Malossi race gears/hybrid ceramic

>

> > bearings in rear trans. No weight on flywheel, euro clutch is rather

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> > heavy.

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> >

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> > Good luck with your build!

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> Jesus Christ that's an incredible build

Yea I definitely trying humping that front wheel

Re: Hobbit stage 6

Edward Rosario /

Update,

Ladies I got it up and running 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 Now I just have to tune the carb, it’s bogging out and not idling, I have a 21mm dellorto with 100 main jet. What would be a ideal jet to start running with for my bike..?

Thanks in advance

Re: Hobbit stage 6

Learn about Dellorto components. There was a great link to a PDF write up on the general forum not long ago. You will need to know/tune:

Main jet

Atomizer number and type

Needle number and clip position

Slide number

Idle jet number

Idle mixture screw setting

They’re pretty finicky with their different circuits. Your main jet should have almost no bearing on your tune at idle, for example.

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