Back on a Tomos after a 14 year break.

Bryan Teeuwen /

Aug 21, 2021 06:31PM

I just wanted to say Hi to everyone

(not sure if anyone remembers me - been a member for a long time)

but I recently got a moped again - it's crazy to think its been 14 years since I owned my last Tomos. I picked up this 1999 Targa LX that is in need of some work. (weird 22 years old? bizarre - I am getting old)

I believe it has an Alukit or some type of kit, amal carb of some size - but it came with the original top end as well. It's missing the CDI / coil (does anyone have any recommendations on that or just get the OEM one?)

Ordered some tires today.... but yeah! wanted to say Hi and will definitely be posting some more again.

Re: Back on a Tomos after a 14 year break.

Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Aug 21, 2021 06:59PM

would someone be able to confirm to me as well that a ZA50 CDI will work on a Tomos a35 ? its been so long I can't remember.

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A Fouler Fowler /

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fowler

Aug 21, 2021 09:43PM

you can make a ZA50 CDI work. will have to install the flywheel without the woodruff key and set the flywheel position relative to the crankshaft. hopefully the stator+flywheel have a firing mark, but that can be found if not. Then, it would be exactly the same steps as installing an HPI ignition, there are Youtube videos for that.

the stock tomos ignition is likely better quality. (edited)

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A Fouler Fowler /

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Aug 21, 2021 09:45PM

"It's missing the CDI / coil (does anyone have any recommendations on that or just get the OEM one?)"

I think you are missing the HT Coil and CDI box? tomos usually has a thing thats both in one box. Post a picture of the wires that come from your stator. we need to know how many and their colors.

also...post a picture of what you do have to get better input. it def looks like a stock tomos flywheel, but its not a great pic of it either. (edited)

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Ted Grant /

neuro

Aug 21, 2021 10:13PM

Welcome back! Nice looking bike. I might pick up a 2010? Tomos Street mate. Owner claims a rock got wedged in the front sprocket and broke the chain. Hope the price is decent....Cheers.

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Henrik S /

henrik

Aug 22, 2021 06:05AM

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I replaced my toasted cdi with a puch cdi, see attached image.

Plug and play, with the original stator and flywheel on my Tomos A35.

I didn't know if it would work but i took the chance and bought one and it works very well for me.

If you have the stator with more than one wire for the cdi it won't work i think.

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Henrik S /

henrik

Aug 22, 2021 06:25AM

And the proof with dirt and dust :-)

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Trent Anderson /

tanderson78

Aug 22, 2021 03:19PM

As punishment for not having a moped for so long, I insist that you haul your bike the 500 Kilometers to the Seattle Mariners Stadium and take a picture of you and it in front of the ballpark for my 30 Ballpark Challenge thread... Assuming the town you live in in your profile is accurate, of course.

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operator error 696 420 /

carless

Aug 22, 2021 06:05PM

Tomos are so underrated!

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Aug 22, 2021 09:13PM

That sounds extremely badass and once I can cross the boarder again I might have to take you up on that!

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Aug 24, 2021 09:32PM

Tried looking for the vin number stamped into the frame but it’s not where it’s supposed to be - am I confused?

Ended up doing a bit of ordering on the weekend. New tires from one place, new turn signals (Banggood) and some sweet sweet oem parts and pieces (Center stand/ignition coil cdi ) a shiny new techno bullet and a crossbar style handle bar all from the Netherlands.

Now it’s the waiting game - I need to take this Amal carb apart and clean it up / anyone know a cheaper source then 10$ per jet 😟

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Aug 24, 2021 09:39PM

I should really look before posting too - I notice only now the kit is piston port and not reed block engine! Bizarre. Anyone have any idea what kit this is? He still has the paperwork from it but not sure!

Damn - I was excited about trying a reed block engine.

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campeona del mundo /

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willc

Aug 25, 2021 02:58PM

RAPTOR KIT

its just a puch TCCD kit.

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Aug 26, 2021 12:56AM

> campeona del mundo Wrote:

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> RAPTOR KIT

>

> its just a puch TCCD kit.

It totally is! Thank you - it was driving me crazy not knowing.

Now I am in sort of a weird position though - do I commit to making this kit work or do I just start investing in a kit with the proper exhaust angle so that everything won’t be a hack job (already have a techno bullet on the way) hmm 🤔

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Oct 11, 2021 10:00AM

Tore into the engine finally - the ignition coil is bad - 0 ohm rating. So now I need to wait!

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Oct 11, 2021 10:02AM

Replaced the crank seals / felt pretty cool to me taking apart a motor this far / haven’t done that before

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Oct 11, 2021 10:05AM

Painted the mag wheels and put some new rubber on - looking fresh!

I still need a new coil / and to order a proper head gasket.

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Oct 11, 2021 10:08AM

Thought this picture of the clutch soaking was dope, check out how worn the first gear clutch hub was….! (edited)

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Oct 11, 2021 10:17AM

Also…. The puch tccd kit either came cracked or I cracked it… sad

Can this be used for anything now or garbage it?

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Don Ohio /

don45640

Oct 11, 2021 01:35PM

> Bryan Teeuwen wrote:

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> Thought this picture of the clutch soaking was dope, check out how worn

> the first gear clutch hub was….!

Welcome back,Bryan! Glad you.re sticking to mopeds!

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Garrett The Kid /

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Oct 11, 2021 03:09PM

> Bryan Teeuwen wrote:

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> Also…. The puch tccd kit either came cracked or I cracked it… sad

>

> Can this be used for anything now or garbage it?

Yea you can cut off the cracked skirt and make it flush with the base gasket. I’ve never personally run one with a single skirt, but have heard of others will zero problems.

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pat splat /

ggspeed

Oct 16, 2021 10:59AM

> Bryan Teeuwen wrote:

>

> Can this be used for anything now or garbage it?

The hub can be slotted again any shape you want.

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Nov 07, 2021 10:27PM

The bike is finally up and running. After assessing the startor I ended up needing a new one - bought an additional cdi to be safe. Had some pretty good air leaks on my first sssembly of the engine. Rectified that by use some ultimate grey permatex but only did the side between the intake and the reed block.

I feel like the base gasket was a weird size so i need to have another look at that and make sure my transfer ports line up nicely - will need to get a dremel or something for that.

The Amal carb took a little bit of figuring as well - seems like dead ped Ryan has the most information on it- kinda cool how the idle jet acts as an enrichment plug - ended up running a 55 jet for that but still want to mess around with it a bunch more.

I want to check my squish on the head but learning as I go.

The original speedometer was broken so I designed and printed my own dash - has a gps speedo - light switch for my fog lights - and it retains the original indicator bulbs for high beam and turn signal.

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Stephen Keller /

keller_stephen

Nov 08, 2021 10:46AM

"dash" is really cool!

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E BinOH /

veetesse

Nov 08, 2021 12:20PM

The dash looks great! How does it attach? I'm assuming you 3D printed it?

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operator error 696 420 /

carless

Nov 08, 2021 08:53PM

> Stephen Keller wrote:

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> "dash" is really cool!

Yea it is!!

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Nov 08, 2021 11:29PM

Thank you!

It’s a about the same width as the original dash - I left holes in the side and it will mount with two pieces of 1-1/8 aluminum flat sheet that will be fancied up.

I also incorporated the original tomos logo into the front of the dash :)

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Nov 13, 2021 08:53PM

Made some tabs to mount the speedo tonight - I think it looks pretty good - headlight needs to come out a bit further or the tabs need to be made long but I am liking it

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Nov 16, 2021 10:38PM

This should be the last post about the dash - moving onto other parts of the project.

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Bryan Teeuwen /

bteeuwen OP

Feb 16, 2022 11:28AM

She’s getting close now.

I replaced the stock 1st gear clutch spring with a 2nd gear red spring.

Replaced the output shaft gasket and got one of those sealing nuts so I don’t get the black wheel of death.

Changed the gearing from 27 x 22 to 27 x 24 to help on the hills.

Finally got the electrics working - high / low beam / horn / indicator lights. (Need to buy some turn signals still)

Things I am struggling with still.

I feel like my timing is still out a bit - it’s too retarded I believe. Need to mess around with timing marks and more accurately finding 2mm BTDC.

Air leaks …. Pipe seems fine but I don’t have confidence in the way my reed block is sealed up - need to try using better loctite and using a stud in the hole that’s hard to access.

MOPED ARMY

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