You'll have to decide what the maximum size of items you'll put in that ultrasonic cleaner before going to HF. Guys are dumping the small cleaners regularly--too limited. I got mine from flea-bay, large enough for automotive components so I use it all the time. Read reviews on Amazon too, just in case, and when you see the same types in both places. What to put on the water for cleaning is a debate. Still having issues with Simple Green aviation cleaner, but it does clean really well. Keep getting white crap crystalizing on carbs after cleaning; I digress, it is a great investment, just do your homework!