Actually in person they don't look that bad except for the stupid small wheel in the back and the 17 inch in the front.That is why I think the Hobbit swap would be cool because it would have a 17 inch wheel in the rear also.As far as the wrong subculture goes.You realize the only people that don't laugh at us about our mopeds are the ones that ride them ,and 90 percent of the general public don't ride them (edited)