Re: Hi, please tell me how to restore this

you can make mst any forks ft with some effort but 100% MEASURE first, especially the length of the headtube. I haven't seen those EBR's but the generic EBR's are shorter headtube (180mm) which is too short, but I've heard best luck with ones for the vespa grande which is 220mm, but may be too long needing some spacers (MUCH easier to have too long a headtube than too short). The 195mm on those you posted, maybe that's right, but do measure... I'm pretty sure you need the 220mm

As for cylinder kit, probably makes sense to order one also from wherever along w the forks. The Athena reed 80 is by FAR the fastest but also creates most issues especially with the notoriously difficult sachs clutches. Athena piston port 70 is a good solid kit, but recently most folks prefer the slightly cheaper airsal sachs kit, which also includes an intake, works pretty OKish with stock carb and stock exhaust header (use clamp-on expansion or weld on whatever chamber). The airsals seem to be widely regarded as simple reliable and quick. https://www.treatland.tv/sachs-AIRSAL-43-5mm-70cc-cylinder-kit-p/sachs-airsal-kit-012002435.htm with downsides that the intakes only work for the stock square bing (you can buy a better intake for a better carb) and the exhaust is the sachs flange style (while Athena is a flat port allowing you to use sachs flange style or puch minarelli etc bolt-on pipes)

also doscycles has the sachs airsal kit cheaper (https://www.doscycles.com/products/sachs-43-5mm-70cc-cylinder-kit-1?_pos=1&_sid=d56007527&_ss=r&variant=41537476303) as well as these forks which I'm 95% sure will fit, they're basically general forks which I've used on G3's. Email em to doublecheck:

https://www.doscycles.com/products/forks?_pos=1&_sid=1a9418b86&_ss=r&variant=6633423620

Re: Hi, please tell me how to restore this

> the only thing more moped than riding around a trash, sun-faded

> red-to-pink paint job is rattlecanning them in hideous colors,

> completely thumbing your nose at any notion of the historical value of

> these shitty toy motorcycles.

Lol! It's not getting rattle-canned. It's going to a pro tank restoration shop and then to a body shop. I'm still happy to trade the body off but pink is not going to be in my build because it's simply not what I want out of it. I'm happy and willing to trade the body off but that is the extent of my obligations or care for the historical value.

Just finished tearing down the wheels and last of the frame. Wheels + frame are going off to be powdercoated gloss black.

> As for cylinder kit, probably makes sense to order one also from wherever along w the forks. The Athena reed 80 is by FAR the fastest but also creates most issues especially with the notoriously difficult sachs clutches.

Good to know. Is there a better clutch upgrade or should I go 70cc instead?

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> Ce Zar Wrote:

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> > the only thing more moped than riding around a trash, sun-faded

>

> > red-to-pink paint job is rattlecanning them in hideous colors,

>

> > completely thumbing your nose at any notion of the historical value of

>

> > these shitty toy motorcycles.

>

> Lol! It's not getting rattle-canned. It's going to a pro tank

> restoration shop and then to a body shop. I'm still happy to trade the

> body off but pink is not going to be in my build because it's simply not

> what I want out of it. I'm happy and willing to trade the body off but

> that is the extent of my obligations or care for the historical value.

>

> Just finished tearing down the wheels and last of the frame.

Any pics of the under side of the tank and body work??

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> no groms no blasters Wrote:

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> OnE oF tHe FoUr OrIgInAlS

>

> they wrecked 300 cars making that show! so awesome. so moped.

>

> https://www.thevintagenews.com/2019/04/01/dukes-of-hazzard/

>

The General Lee that Watson owns is dubbed Lee 1. It’s the car that jumps a police cruiser in the opening credits. The auction house reports that there are only three General Lees still in existence.

Re: Hi, please tell me how to restore this

> Any pics of the under side of the tank and body work??

Here: https://imgchest.com/p/6a846paw7xj

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There's red underneath the pink on the tank.

I hope your new paint job turns out well. Sorry for complaining...

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> baird co Wrote:

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> There's red underneath the pink on the tank.

>

> I hope your new paint job turns out well. Sorry for complaining...

That red might just be a base for the pink ?

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> baird co Wrote:

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> There's red underneath the pink on the tank.

>

> I hope your new paint job turns out well. Sorry for complaining...

I think it's incredibly unlikely given the state of the factory stickers. This is a 40 year old paint job if I ever saw one. (edited)

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the first part of any paint that's gonna fail will fail where it gets gassy, I agree looks like it was red. Though Idont think you're wrong either - looks like it was done well and probably many years ago. It's certainly possible to remove and replace decals, and dealers should've had access to replacements. I'd guess maybe a dealer special edition or gift to a daughter or something. Still very cool, and honestly I support you repainting it if that's what you want to do. I pretty vehemently disapprove of shitty rattlecan overspray on top of awesome factory paint, but if you're doing it outta love for the bike and not some vain attempt at cool, I dig

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I have a used sachs 70cc athena for sale if you're interested. I have some other misc sachs clutch parts n such too in a bin. Sorry no sidecovers for sale.

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> Born to be WillD Wrote:

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> the first part of any paint that's gonna fail will fail where it gets

> gassy, I agree looks like it was red. Though Idont think you're wrong

> either - looks like it was done well and probably many years ago. It's

> certainly possible to remove and replace decals, and dealers should've

> had access to replacements. I'd guess maybe a dealer special edition or

> gift to a daughter or something. Still very cool, and honestly I support

> you repainting it if that's what you want to do. I pretty vehemently

> disapprove of shitty rattlecan overspray on top of awesome factory

> paint, but if you're doing it outta love for the bike and not some vain

> attempt at cool, I dig

Wow good catch.

I went back and looked and it appears it was repainted. Many, many years ago. And well. The insides of the fork tubes are even pink. It's about what I would expect from a factory or body shop.

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> Ce Zar Wrote:

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> > Born to be WillD Wrote:

>

> > -------------------------------------------------------

>

> > the first part of any paint that's gonna fail will fail where it gets

>

> > gassy, I agree looks like it was red. Though Idont think you're wrong

>

> > either - looks like it was done well and probably many years ago. It's

>

> > certainly possible to remove and replace decals, and dealers should've

>

> > had access to replacements. I'd guess maybe a dealer special edition

> or

>

> > gift to a daughter or something. Still very cool, and honestly I

> support

>

> > you repainting it if that's what you want to do. I pretty vehemently

>

> > disapprove of shitty rattlecan overspray on top of awesome factory

>

> > paint, but if you're doing it outta love for the bike and not some

> vain

>

> > attempt at cool, I dig

>

> Wow good catch.

>

> I went back and looked and it appears it was repainted. Many, many years

> ago. And well. The insides of the fork tubes are even pink. It's about

> what I would expect from a factory or body shop.

Thats why I asked for the underside pics. There are ways of telling and I knew damn good and well it wasn't "pink from the sun". Thanks for the pics. Do it up what ever color besides red. (edited)

Re: Hi, please tell me how to restore this

Carl Johnson /

Just watch this video. Covers all the core stuff you should need to know and this guy does a great job.

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> Carl Johnson Wrote:

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> Just watch this video. Covers all the core stuff you should need to know

> and this guy does a great job.

>

>

I suppose this would have been more helpful if I hadn't disassembled the bike into its constituent parts right away. I think the carb tuning stuff will be helpful on the other side though.

Re: Hi, please tell me how to restore this

Also.. I CAN'T FIND ANYONE TO POWDERCOAT THE FRAME AND WHEELS. There are a bunch of places listed on google but when I actually talk to them about it they are like 'we only do car wheels' or 'we don't have a sandblaster' (wtf?! _I_ have a sandblaster). It's looking like I'll have to get a place an hour from here to do it. Lame.

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Alright, somebody in KY or OH step up and save that bike, or at least the pink stuff. Somebody with a Tomos to trade, get up there so the guy gets a top tank project that’s just begging for the lime green. Dudes, if it weren’t so far,I would make it happen. C’mon!

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> Ce Zar Wrote:

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> Also.. I CAN'T FIND ANYONE TO POWDERCOAT THE FRAME AND WHEELS. There are

> a bunch of places listed on google but when I actually talk to them

> about it they are like 'we only do car wheels' or 'we don't have a

> sandblaster' (wtf?! _I_ have a sandblaster). It's looking like I'll have

> to get a place an hour from here to do it. Lame.

shitty, I had mine done by a guy in atl for the same price as a bicycle frame.

also most cities have a community space with sandblastage available.

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I haven't talked to Shawn in a couple of years. He does excellent work. Sorry about the snot on the business card.

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> live ɘvil Wrote:

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> I haven't talked to Shawn in a couple of years. He does excellent work.

> Sorry about the snot on the business card.

> >

HAH

His name keeps coming up when I ask around. I called him twice and he hung up on me. I think he thought I was a bill collector. I'm gonna give him another try.

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Fuck that pink. I'm queer and I hate pink. I'm not even sure if there's a powder coater here... Louisville, at least. The ones turning you down are bastards, way easier to do a moped wheel, than a car wheel.

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> Ce Zar Wrote:

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> > live ɘvil Wrote:

>

> > -------------------------------------------------------

>

> > I haven't talked to Shawn in a couple of years. He does excellent

> work.

>

> > Sorry about the snot on the business card.

>

> > >

>

> HAH

>

> His name keeps coming up when I ask around. I called him twice and he

> hung up on me. I think he thought I was a bill collector. I'm gonna give

> him another try.

He has done lots of work for me and ive never had a problem. I suppose the covid thing could have fucked him up. I have a frame and wheels ive been meaning to take to him. I may drive by the shop today or tomorrow.

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Just went by H&H coatings and he was closed but he is still definitely in business. Peered through the window and saw several freshly powder coated items.

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Made a couple more efforts to reach out to H&H, not happening.

I reached out to the ONE other person in town who responded, but said they didn't have a sandblaster. I asked if I sandblasted the parts and brought them in fully prepped if he could handle it. He said he is "totally swamped." Great fortune for him in a recession!

I give up. It's going to to a guy out of town in Harrodsburg near where we have some family. It'll take a month or so with his schedule and mine but I'll at least be able to get some forward progress. Really demoralizing having to pause this long.

Shame, we have a pottery kiln I'm certain could do powdercoating, but it's simply not big enough for the frame.

This whole thing has made me look into what it would take to get started in the business. The fact that I couldn't find a single place in a city of 2 million to do a quick job at full retail price is a wake up.

I'll update the thread in a month or so once I get the parts back.

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