RUN BENOL RACING 2 CYCLE!

ill never use a different mix in my mopeds again. Benol smells great and piston n rings look nice n wet /pristine.

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Angry Hipster /

Won't that clog up the engine and exhaust quickly?

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> Angry Hipster Wrote:

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> Won't that clog up the engine and exhaust quickly?

Yes.

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> Dave & Bummerzz Wrote:

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> > Won't that clog up the engine and exhaust quickly?

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> Yes.

Quicker , maybe .

Nothing that regular maintenance can't easily take care of .

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Pushrod Fifty /

My Suzuki K10 was running great with Blendzall castor. After 300 miles the rings got stuck in the grooves from carbon buildup and stopped making contact with the cylinder wall causing the piston to overheat. It was a fresh top end. Lucky fir me I can hone out and replace the piston.

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Hmm , looks like the lower ring never made contact with the cylinder .

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Pushrod Fifty /

Its frozen solid.

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Exhaust port and clean a pipe every month if you think about it isn't a whole hellav alot of work!

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How much work is clearing a pipe and exhaust port every month?? Depending ride time.

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> Its frozen solid.

What ratio where you running ?

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Pushrod Fifty /

24:1 because it's a cast iron jug and had double crank bearings on the right side. The outer bearing can starve for oil. But I did notice a lot of oil in the crankcase and the bottom end was running real quiet.

The exhaust port and head weren't loaded with carbon and the plug looks perfect.

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> Pushrod Fifty Wrote:

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> 24:1 because it's a cast iron jug and had double crank bearings on the

> right side. The outer bearing can starve for oil. But I did notice a lot

> of oil in the crankcase and the bottom end was running real quiet.

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> The exhaust port and head weren't loaded with carbon and the plug looks

> perfect.

I wonder what was so special about that outer bearing that it couldn't be a sealed bearing ?

Or , why Suzuki didn't/couldn't come up with a better lubing 'system' for that bearing ?

24>1 is a bit 'thick' , but I can see why .

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Pushrod Fifty /

The added oil inject right into the cavity between the bearings the next year.

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> The added oil inject right into the cavity between the bearings the next

> year.

Day late and a dollar short . ;(

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Dirty30 Dillon /

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> How much work is clearing a pipe and exhaust port every month??

> Depending ride time.

Seriously? You're going to clean your pipe and exhaust every month?

Nah, I got too many bikes to be cleaning top ends every month lol.

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If you're running benoil in a daily rider, average cruiser, low speed bike, it's gonna load up, coke your head, probably shorten your plug life, and clog up your exhaust.

It's designed for constant hi rpms. Then it Burns clean and keeps everything nice and lubed.

And, as I mentioned before, it separates in cold temps.

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i was exaggerating. Its cheaper to buy and less hassle to buy a 50 dollar bullet pipe every now and then.

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Klotz 20% castor _synthetic good comprise and still smells great

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Dirty30 Dillon /

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> i was exaggerating. Its cheaper to buy and less hassle to buy a 50

> dollar bullet pipe every now and then.

I guess this works when you run bullet pipes.

Not exactly looking to replace $180/un-obtainable pipes, and the same goes for top ends.

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Damn dude lighten up a smidge on being critical.

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Dirty30 Dillon /

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> Damn dude lighten up a smidge on being critical.

Offering counterpoint to your castor pros list is not being critical, it is merely being factual.

Castor has it's place, like baird pointed out. You can keep the build-up from being a problem if you are getting everything hot enough. I don't have any bikes that would fit that description, nor do I want to remove and clean exhausts, or unstick rings every season.

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Pushrod Fifty /

Either do I. I have a gallon of Green label Blendzall for sale. Or trade for a bullet headlight.

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pretty impressive, castor bean oil (such as Benol) have higher film strengths than even the best synthetics.

But being natural, even with the pretty extensive processing, refining and degumming of phasphatides that Klotz puts the Benol through, you've got impurities, other esters and fatty acids, and unlike petrol based oils any veggie based oil are less oxidation resistant will gum up.

also ricin comes from castor beans which is kinda neat.

I think alotta high performance oils use a synthetic and castor blend, and you can prevent or limit the carbon deposits while maintaining many of the benefits, plus you get that sweet smell. Or you make your own similar (and sweet) full synthetics

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Terbo Speghetti /

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> i was exaggerating. Its cheaper to buy and less hassle to buy a 50

> dollar bullet pipe every now and then.

Lololol this logic is so backwards.

I'm gonna run fancy oil that I don't need, but the problems it causes are gonna make me run a shitty $50 pipe that i have to replace twice a year.

STUPID

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General consensus may not be what you want to hear but it's unlikely that it's wrong. (edited)

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I don't know I'm just not cool with ripping on the guy. I did stupid stuff like this when I got into mopeds too. I even thought it was a good idea to run diesel motor oil as pre-mix because I thought it would be better. Or thinking that a FMF 4-stroke dirt bike pipe would be great to mount to a moped. Mark, just go to your local motorcycle shop and get some 2t. They'll point you in the right direction and I understand the confusion and idea that comes with wanting to run the best stuff money can buy. I run Motul 800, not too expensive, easy to find. (edited)

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> I don't know I'm just not cool with ripping on the guy.

Really? Like you just did in another thread? And I quote....

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> Just sounds like stupid shit just to find a "geocache" with a lame

> puzzle in it or some other trash. Boring.

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Ohhh! The dramatics! you can run a stock moped 40:1 wide open throttle daily and any moped would be just fine. With any castor 2 cycle. i know an old man been rebuilding and selling mopeds for 40 years told me its fine. if you arent sitting around letting a moped idle. So ill listen to someone with 40 years of moped repair experience. Im done with talking about this topic.

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People shouldn't let this topic keep ridin let it go.

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> People shouldn't let this topic keep ridin let it go.

You mean like you did by reviving an age old topic ?

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