Can anyone ID this OLD Engine?

kenneth Winter /

I have this OLD bicycle engine.

I actually got it to run.

Can anyone help me figure out what it is?(edited)

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Petter AC1?

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kenneth Winter /

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kenneth Winter /

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Paging Dave seley

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Pushrod Fifty /

I love it. Search clip-on motors, as that's what English called them.

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Daves prolly got one still in the plastic

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Hmm , According to that AC1m # , you seem to have an extremely rare Yamaha AC1M 6 string guitar . LOL

Neat little motor though . ;)

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Dirty30 Dillon /

It's a Derny Cyclomoteur, Zurcher motor. 98cc.(edited)

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Pushrod Fifty /

I have a 30's skiptooth bike that fit nicely with that engine.

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He is not just dirty, he is spot on. Zurcher 100 (98cc) Circa 1955 based on the carb. (Some are even older than that with the same design, but they updated the carbs as they got better)

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Funny, the air cleaner on that Zurcher is the same metal unicorn one that was used on Minarelli P4 powered Italian bikes of the late 60's like Broncco, Aermachhi Harley Shorster, etc, those collectors pay big for it because they screw on with one screw in the middle, and are almost always lost as they vibrate off

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kenneth Winter /

Show me.. I need to find a bike fitting this engine..

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kenneth Winter /

WOW,,,GREAT info. But web search for Zercher finds not much??

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kenneth Winter /

Zurcher

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Dirty30 Dillon /

Yeah, you are not going to find a surviving bike that that motor will bolt onto.

You probably can't find the info unless you're prepared to do some translating/interpreting.

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It's cool enough to build a bike around.

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> Tri-ped Dave Wrote:

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> Funny, the air cleaner on that Zurcher is the same metal unicorn one

> that was used on Minarelli P4 powered Italian bikes of the late 60's

> like Broncco, Aermachhi Harley Shorster, etc, those collectors pay big

> for it because they screw on with one screw in the middle, and are

> almost always lost as they vibrate off

I have a 63 Testi Weekend Cross with a P4 and that filter. Plan on building a race P6 when I can find one. Wanna buy my filter?

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Pic of a derny

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Wolf Wizard /

Oh fun! A del SHB carb! The reason I stopped calling the SHA a “shah” and now call it an S-H-A. Haha ya just can’t go around saying “shhb”

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kenneth Winter /

I am working getting the engine going..

I need to know How to set the static timing and the points gap..

Can anyone suggest a starting point..???

10 degrees before TDC and .0015 gap..???

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