MOPED ARMY

this is the wiring diagram for my hpi regulator/rectifier

https://www.hpi.be/downloads/210V261_eng.pdf

ive been searching on this forum for hpi info and come across a lot of stuff way over my head with floating grounds and keeping ac and dc grounds seperate

which i wouldnt have a clue how to do

i dont have a yellow ring to earth but have a yellow that has the output for lights etc

and looking at that diagram i connect the yellow to the units yellow and pink together? ( in reality its white not pink)

your question really has no answer. the cap's function is to short out ac in a dc electrical system. incandescent bulbs run ac fine. if you keep the stock lighting ac in the dc side is no problem. if you want to switch bulbs and run led then you need a cap because led's burn with ac in the dc side.

I always switch to led's and run a 63v 22,000uf cap because I want the slow idle. (uses way less juice). its a real cheapo part and works as well as a battery to short out ac.

you can't float ground at a stator. I don't care what the wiki says.(edited)

3v is not normal. should be 12-14.3v. obviously the poster has the stator wires wrong. he'll get it once he wakes up and he stops trying to float the stator. its simple, just follow the diagram. hint: a dc stator has 2 wires, you must both stator outputs to run dc. ac one wire is grounded.

as much as I know I still learn. always wanted to know why the r/r is wired the way it is. especially since I don't do it that way. did not know you could run the same r/r ac or dc. now I know how.

the cap replaces the battery and wires in the same as a battery. its just a lot cheaper, smaller and lighter.

just bought one

at idle its only 3v but this rises to over 12V at mid revs

i remember dim lights on my old puch and my yam 350 back in the 70's at idle and only above 1700 rpm did the system produce any power on the yamaha - the idiot lights would brighten up slightly as you revved it.

i was hoping a new 21st century system would have got it sorted but i suppose magnets are still the same magnets they have been since time began.

im buying a couple of those caps

cheers

you do not need a battery at idle. you need to lower the current draw at idle. you complain you did a high tech conversion but not high tech results. change to leds to get that stupid slow idle lower the ldle and finish the job.

bullshit Dillon, you can repair by reducing draw or you can run a battery.

Dillon may know mopeds but he does not understand ee. he is a troll. like a lot of the ma, does not understand how electrical engineering works.

So, it's bullshit because you just repeated the same suggestion I had? Except running LED's is not doing what he wants: increasing available voltage at idle.

sounds about right

to be fair i can live with dim lights at idle

i only posted about the 3V because i was worried there was something wrong with my system or i'd wired it up wrong.

I will never ever ride it at night, its purely for MOT purposes.

thanks for everyones help and suggestions,

i have a tiny 12V motobatt on another moped i can try (once its charged back up again) and will try the cap. i will also look into led's and see whats good and whats bad

your problem is that you have no idea about ee theory. running leds increases voltage at idle. it has to. it is also a repair for weak stators. you have no idea what you are saying, yet you still come up with retarded dumb ass ideas I will never repeat.,

honestly without led's you can run without the cap or the battery. in this case you are running dc with ac in it. will do no harm to regular bulbs. you only need pure dc to run leds.(edited)

really having a hard time because you don't have a fucking clue. the posters 3v at idle is with the headlight connected. shut off the headlight then what will the idle voltage be?

no head or tail lamp connected when i tested with the multimeter

in fact i have yet to find a coarse -ish bulb that fits the bulb holder

i can always ditch it and get a holder to suit more readily available bulbs

To quote the OP

"no head or tail lamp connected when i tested with the multimeter

in fact i have yet to find a coarse -ish bulb that fits the bulb holder

i can always ditch it and get a holder to suit more readily available bulbs"

So I mean yeah that's with no load. It's rated for 60w peak output, so at idle even with no load it's not gonna be putting out 60w. If you wire up a battery you'll have more even brightness across the rev range.

nick, never said a 60w stator puts out 60w at idle. I say its total bullshit that a 60w stator puts out 3v at idle.

ken gilbert fuck you. going to grad school is not a mental condition. I have experience and education. please tell us what education you have. I have a 30w stator on a dirtbike that puts out 14v at idle. you don't know this?

just to prove ken and Dillon know nothing, what is the other way to wire dc. you see the diagram. how else could it be wired? no way these trolls have this ability.(edited)

every time you open your mouth, more bullshit spews from it. that's the mental condition.

every time you get backed into a corner, you deflect with ad hominem attacks and strawman arguments. that's the mental condition.

let's assume for a moment you're not a pathological liar. to be even accepted to grad school program you need a bachelor's degree. where's yours from? what's the degree in? what year did you graduate?

in another post you said "there is one thing dillon or anyone can't take away from me. its grad school. I finished." https://mopedarmy.com/forums/read.php?1,4334522,4339243#msg-4339243

so did you GO to grad school, or did you FINISH grad school? unsurprisingly, your stories keep changing. if you FINISHED grad school that means you have an advanced degree, like a masters or doctorate. you must be very proud, and would likely hang that kind of diploma on the wall, not to mention leverage it into a career since it's such a large investment of money and time.

the truth is you don't even have a high school diploma/GED.

> I have experience and education. please tell us what education you have.

since you asked, my bachelor's is from providence college ('96), with transfer credits from the us naval academy ('91-'94). for more information you can read about my professional accomplishments and employment history on my linkedin page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kagilbert/

did you scrape off the paint on the frame at the ground point? 3v means the headlight will be off at idle. they wont start working till about 7v, and that's dim. anyway something is wrong because you have a 60w stator.

so how do I run 12v on a 6v bike. change regulator from 6 to 12v. change the sockets to fit modern bulbs. lower the load so you don't need a battery put a cap so the leds don't blow.

is there anyone who reads my threads after the trolls stomp them out? lets see. tell the trolls how else you can wire dc.

ken gilbert and Dillon don't know how else it could be wired. man their threads are all the same, nonsense, retarded. never factual. I went to state became a doctor. it did not cost that much. paid for the ee myself at a private university they offered me a 1/3 off tuition. turned them down because I got accepted to state grad. my bs undergrad is in chemistry. never broke bad, but I think about it often.