old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

I'm a fat old dad now.

and i want a top tank - i've never had one.

and I recently sold my vintage yamaha that I had rebuilt, and tinkered with , and modded and stuff. so i have some budget

My Peugeot 103 is so clean and O.G. that there is nothing to do to it. Someone even brought it to Myron's back in the day and Shawn did the ignition upgrade.

downside: it is a stock Pug so it doesn't start off the line .... and it only goes 33

So now i have nothing to work on in addition to not being able to go up a hill.

another factor: i have kids. so time is hard to come by

the onyx:

I like it.

i like the brutal design.

i test drove one, and ...... it was insanely fun. Fast. Stops safely. modern as fuck.

but.

cons: if something goes wrong ..... i have to bring it to a specialist. i have to charge it. it is, what it is.

mark II :

in LA a used mark II in generally over-priced. So over priced, that the ohio riders would belly laugh and belittle me.

also - i have no puch experience, and don't even know what i wold do to an e50 to make it pull my lard ass up a hill. i doubt it is "up jet, add a performace pipe"

i have only fucked with Tomos and sachs engines (non moped old vespa, yamaha MC etc.)

but part of me thinks an onyx will be a cop out.

and that I'll get over it and just watch a kitted MAXI go by and think - that goes up a hill and that person probably made it go.

Maybe i'm just a bitter broken person

attached is a magnum available currently : look at the price tag.....

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Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

I would buy the onyx if I had the money. They rip and are probably more reliable than any 40 year old moped

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

Onyx have very few issues that are easy to fix. Most parts are easily purchased on amazon and they’re a great company to deal with

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

Similar situation.

55 years old, 7 kids (3 still home), 21 mopeds, only 1 is a top tank, and it currently goes about 30 because it's not been kitted.

I've had mopeds since 1979 and for whatever reason, never made the leap to motorcycles. I think about that a lot. Maybe get a 70 cc Passport, trail 90, I even put down $200 on a sweet Honda CB125 a couple of years ago and never completed the transaction. How stupid is that? I literally gave a guy $200 for nothing. I still have the receipt for the $200.

I'm probably big enough for a small motorcycle, maybe a 350 cc or the like, and maybe that's what a lot of us ought to do, because we all want that cheap, barn find Magnum, but the first thing we want to do is make it go faster than the other guy's Magnum, and some motorcycles show up on FB Marketplace or Craigslist for less than what we spend on a moped when it's all said and done.

Tought call, indeed.

Check out this silly video. Maybe it will help.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/266755530607977/permalink/511871456096382/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

Get a magnum. Find one under 800.

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i have family in ashtabula. and i'm from upstate rust belt NY

sometimes i wish i lived in ohio JUST for the rusty barn finds

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> D dB Wrote:

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> i have family in ashtabula. and i'm from upstate rust belt NY

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> sometimes i wish i lived in ohio JUST for the rusty barn finds

I've got a couple of bikes from Andover, in Ashtabula county. My best deal was a titled CB125 for $300 that just needed fresh gas to run. Ohio really is full of good deals

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

there is a CB180

with awesome original blue tank paint in the hood..

id buy that in a heart beat

> I've got a couple of bikes from Andover, in Ashtabula county. My best

> deal was a titled CB125 for $300 that just needed fresh gas to run. Ohio

> really is full of good deals

i was gifted the old motorcycle i had , and as much as i loved the gesture, and LOVED working on it....

i didn't enjoy riding it.

i'm a huge person. i probably shouldn't ride anything.

i wrote a song about the motorcycle.... "your daddy gave me a motorcycle"

my father in law gave it to me - knowing i loved mopeds. lol

there is a line in the song.

"your daddy gave me a motorcycle, he know's im a moped guy

such a sinister gift to give. i guess that he wants me to die"

lol ...

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

I've bought a Hobbit, a Snark, and 2 parts bikes in Ashtabula County in the last 2 years at good prices.

I saw a good looking Tomos come up for sale for $50 recently that wasn't on FB for more than an hour.

I've bought 8 Motrons and 6 miscellaneous bikes within a 100 mile drive without going out of Ohio. And, of course, Ohio doesn't require titles for mopeds. It is a pretty good place for barn finds!

I think I've only gone out of state for 5 bikes in the last 4 years.

There was a Magnum 2 years ago for $400, 60 miles away that "runs but won't move". I'm assuming it was a clutch issue. I just didn't have the cash at the time.

Definitely a good area for mopeds. (edited)

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> Daniel '' Wrote:

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> Onyx have very few issues that are easy to fix. Most parts are easily

> purchased on amazon and they’re a great company to deal with

I just searched amazon for onyx moped, bike, and ebike and nothing came up?

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> Chris . Wrote:

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> > Daniel '' Wrote:

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> > Onyx have very few issues that are easy to fix. Most parts are easily

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> > purchased on amazon and they’re a great company to deal with

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> I just searched amazon for onyx moped, bike, and ebike and nothing came

> up?

Cause they use some off the shelf components. You'd have to look up the brand of the component you needed, not Onyx

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

Probably Fred /

I would be lost without my magnums and other bigger bikes like Tomos revival,

I use them for grocery getting, going to the pool, beach or pretty much anywhere,

The stock modded ones that go around 40mph I use for closer places that have 25-35mph speed limits, the hi power kitted ones are for farther distances on 45-55mph roads,

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All are Super reliable (The way I build and maintain) and get way better mpg then my 17-20 year old vans, some 4-5x the mpg

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

yeah i wanted a grey and green mk II in 1985 when had barely turned 8.

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Probably Fred /

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> yeah i wanted a grey and green mk II in 1985 when had barely turned 8.

MkII’s are Silver with a bit of metal flake not gray and even though magnum II and Red mag XK don’t have hydro forks and hydro shocks they are still way better then most mopeds and work fine for my 200lb, I upgrade my rear shocks to a MKII hydro or aftermarket ones on XK, mag II most times

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I'd rock the Onyx if they didn't cost so damn much, I'd skip the magum in the pic too at that price, ask if they want to sell the car behind it.... :)

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

I meant silver. But yeah.

Every mk II I see in LA is beat down and 1500

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my c-list 250.00 mk2

20 min from my house

truly mint & very low miles

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Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

all i hear is whinning, suck it up.

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> t r Wrote:

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> my c-list 250.00 mk2

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> 20 min from my house

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> truly mint & very low miles

^^^your tripping, scams do exist, too good of a deal, etc.

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

Yeah, I think if you’re not trying to get your hands dirty and only plan on doing <20-40 miles a day on a moped I would say an onyx is by far the best choice. 57mph top speed and no real maintenance other than keeping air in the tires and the battery charged. The rear brake caliper is garbage and the routing of the cable was so that when you would turn it to the left it would engage the rear brake causing really fast wear on the pads. It needed to be addressed on two of the four onyx I have seen. Also the rear rotor bolts have been known to back out, I red lock tite them.

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yeah my kids are little - so my dreams of garage time are 5 - 6 years away.

but that onyx is so expensive 4k with tax

maybe i should gently tweak my pug?

we will see. no rush

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

Have been watching ONYX vids for a bit, and you know, they could really be worth the cost, it took a lot to develop, and the performance seems amazing, it today's dollars, minus my old guy cheap ass thinking, it is worth the cost...I hate myself for saying so, but the convenience vs a gas powered machine is undeniable. I love the old engines, I really do, but I'm SO over working on stuff, and a good moped can be very reliable but you are going to have to mess with it from time to time. Depending on how long the battery will last, this could be a very useful machine indeed. For the asking price there are some things lacking, notably fenders, seriously guys? Mirrors, an even worse safety omission, but easily remedied, but you should not have to at this price point. It could prob be registered as a moped in my state, and maybe not at all if you kept your speed down as it has pedals. But you know you are going to ride in the fastest mode all the time so having a moped plate and insurance is advisable. Cops here love a current plate, they tend to look away when they see one. My scooter goes 40+ and has a moped plate, so yeah worth doing. The tail lamp should be larger and there should be turn signals, there is a way to add them from what my research shows, but again at the asking price they should come standard. I have the credit to get a loan for one of these, and it could well be worth it. It would cost more than any car I have ever bought, and my old fashioned self rebels at this kind of money for what it to be cheap transport, but basically no maint to speak of, you can legally have it in your apartment, and will whip all but the fastest gas mopeds, whats not to love? If you have not yet you will get old and get over wrenching, riding is where it's at and this lets you do that. Electric bikes are in the same grey area that mopeds were in the '70's get in now and you can get away with no license plates or insurance, I would not but you could, keep it in eco mode roll around at 20 mph, legally you don't need anything. You have pedals! :) If one were to plate this as a moped, when they start regulating these you could get grandfathered in, example, my scooter is a '99 model goes 40-45 depending on rider weight, it qualifies as a moped due to it being 49cc, newer scooters like ruckus, metropolitan vino C-3 etc have to be motorcycles due to the same speed even though they are 50cc. The only thing I have not been able to figure out is does an ONYX come with a mso so it can be titled at all? I would even go so far as to title it as a motorcycle if I had to as it sort of is, speed wise, but if you get in early you don't have to go through this. Free use! :) If you can bring the $ I say it is a good investment, not for resale, but for practical transportation.

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Stephen gets it! Battery technology is advancing every year too. Eventually there will be quick charge batteries that are moped sized so you can grab a coffee and top off your bike on a lunch break.

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

yea if you asked me 5 years ago, it'd be magnum but now, i think the onyx is a better easier bet, especially if you've only got one. still, if it were me, I'd wholly abandon both the onyx and magnum idea and just fix up whatever cheap crap is around me and kinda interesting.

or for that kinda money maybe a new cub. that's one you can be pretty sure will both last and hold value. plus i really like em

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Tri-ped Dave O.D.B. /

Kit the Pug. Save the original parts. If you ever want to return it back to original you can. 103s can really rip and the stuff is not that expensive. Problem solved

Re: old dude / dads --- should I rebuild a mk II or buy an ONYX?

ironically i found quite the gem here in LA for 500 that im going to look at.

it's a kitted Maxi that is sketchy as fuck.

ill keep everyone posted.

that being said - i appreciate all the comments.

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> Daniel '' Wrote:

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> Stephen gets it! Battery technology is advancing every year too.

> Eventually there will be quick charge batteries that are moped sized so

> you can grab a coffee and top off your bike on a lunch break.

The current range is more than acceptable for my riding needs. Quick charge would be sweet though.

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> Born to be WillD Wrote:

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> yea if you asked me 5 years ago, it'd be magnum but now, i think the

> onyx is a better easier bet, especially if you've only got one. still,

> if it were me, I'd wholly abandon both the onyx and magnum idea and just

> fix up whatever cheap crap is around me and kinda interesting.

>

> or for that kinda money maybe a new cub. that's one you can be pretty

> sure will both last and hold value. plus i really like em

A cub would be an excellent choice, going to check them out at this years motorcycle show, but you then still have to deal with gasoline/oil changes, and they are too big to bring inside, not an issue for everyone, but for me it would be I could not stand to see it outside in our winters. You also need plates an mc license and insurance.

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Probably Fred /

> Stephen Keller Wrote:

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> > Daniel '' Wrote:

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> > Stephen gets it! Battery technology is advancing every year too.

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> > Eventually there will be quick charge batteries that are moped sized

> so

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> > you can grab a coffee and top off your bike on a lunch break.

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> The current range is more than acceptable for my riding needs. Quick

> charge would be sweet though.

I don’t understand why you can’t have swap battery stations for ev vehicles,

One of my first jobs I had a greeting card company after I was first married was a material handler and we drove all kinds of lift trucks, tow motors, stand up and powered hand trucks and when the battery went dead even though it weighted hundreds of pounds or more we just took like a big hook and pulled it out on to rollers at charge station that had several and put a newly charged one in it,

Large lift trucks that had to handle several ton rolls of paper had a small hand crane to use to change battery but it still only took minutes that was with a 1 ton battery I mean this was in 1980 with huge heavy batteries and one person was able do it,

Why the heck does these ev vehicles have to have permanent batteries makes no sense,

As soon as barbecue grills had LP gas exchange stations it made the whole gas grill Industry bloom because it was such a hassle to take your tank down to the welding supply to get it filled up,

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