An end to flats ?

Reeperette /

While checkin out puncture proof tubes, which I need a new one of since someone icepicked my front tire right after I replaced the fuel line.....

I noticed a foam-fill kinda gadget that's supposed to replace tubes in your tires.

Although originally intended for a bicycle, my girl suggested we try it on a moped and see if it works....if so, well, no more flats, right ? in theory....

We will see.

Now if assholes would just quit vandalising my moped long enough for me to RIDE the damned thing, I'd be happy.

-R

Re: An end to flats ?

david f martin /

Let us know what you find out (including brand, and where to find it). I'm more interested for safety reasons than from vandals.

david

Re: An end to flats ?

.. a Bib Mousse ?

Thats what they called them in France where they originated them for dirtbikes... they are a 'solid' soft foam core insert.. (like a big piece of ring bologna)... they are MAJOR pain in the ass to install on a motorcycle (you have to smear the entire rear wheel and tire and the insert with GREASE... then wrestle it in.

...also... on racing dirtbikes.. they are primarily used by professional racers because they are so expensive... and from the abuse they get... they don't last all that long.

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david f martin /

Seems like someone could make some of that foam you spray into mouseholes into a dispensor that you could shoot into your tires...

david

Yeah, it's something like that, Fred.

Reeperette /

Although I hope for some durability, being that it's kinda hard to put it through that level of abuse on a moped, heh, but rest assured I'll try.

Seems a nice safety issue too, having dumped a ped or two in my time cause of catchin a flat rear tire, nice to have that not happen.

As fer vandals, remember that I have self-sealing tubes, so whoever did this had to have jammed the pick in, and really worked at it in order to fully deflate the tire like it is now - makes you wonder about humanity, that someone'd go to that much effort to be a jerk.

Anyhow, I'd love to see the look on their face as they try that crap on a foamfill insert, and it doesn't work...but I'd find it even MORE satisfying to bash that expression off their face with a 2x4...damn I hate moped thieves/vandals.

-R

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yeah you can put that fix-a-flat foam into your tires. its made for cars but it seems to work pretty well so far. it comes in a can and it has a hose you put onto your valve and it also fills the tire a little bit.

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I once got some closed cell foam shields for my mt. bike tires when I was desert camping. They're supposed to reduce the frequency of flats from spines and thorns. Maybe someone in NM or NV has seen them in bike shops.

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david f martin /

I've used Fix-a-flat on a moped tire with success, but I think it just coats the leak with a sticky glue. I was thinking more about a foam or gel that completely fills the tube and hardens to a rubbery spongy consistency. It might compress under weight if there is a leak in the tube, but it wouldn't go flat suddenly.

That's why I thought of that stuff you spray into mouseholes. It expands into a foam that fills the hole tightly and completely.

david

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Kevin Harrell /

Here is a site that has solid tires. Maby one will fit your moped.

http://www.airfreetires.com/Default.htm

If you give it a try let everyone know how it works out. Please note though that these tires may be heavier than inflated tires, so, more energy is needed to keep the wheels turning and you will probably run more slowly. At least that is my experience runing a solid, foam filled tire.

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I wouldn't use fix a flat.it ruins your rims, as the stuff is impossible to remove if your tire suddenly will o longer hold any air.

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david f martin /

It doesn't ruin your rims, but it does make a nasty mess. Sometimes it will get you home, though. I'll suffer the consequences later, if it's dark and raining and I'm 5 miles from home, it's worth it to me. Take my word for it. I'd like a better alternative, though.

david

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yeah... fix a flat is bad.. it is amonia based glue.... when your leak is sealed the amonia has no wear to go becuase it is air tight and it actualy starts to break down the rubber on your tires.. also.. it is a complete birtch to get off your hands... it stings like mess and is nasty.

anyways.. i am sure you could cut the tip of a valve stem from a tube off.. then shove it in your tire and wheel thne use some hardware store type expandable foam.

they use it to seal up large hoes in construction work or to seal around fixture openings and stuff. That would be pretty cool.. the stuff come in a can and has a small tip im sure it would fit into a cut off valve stem and you could aim it to fill up one side of the tire blowing it up like a balloon... worth a try.. haha...

Update.

Reeperette /

Well, cause of the way Bicycle and Moped tires are sized, the 16" model don't fit...gonna try the 20" one, since 20" x 2.125 bicycle gear fits Tomos tires.

Looks like it will work, and not be all that cursed hard to install, will let you know how it goes.

-R

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I'd be interested too. I burst a front tire once - got 4 stitches and a cowlick that won't quit .

How do you guys normally deal with flats? Should I be carrying puncture stuff around when I get the moped up and running?

infini

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david f martin /

I carry a tire pump, a spare tube and tools to change it with, and a can of Fix-a-flat for emergencies. Kinda like wearing a belt AND suspenders...

david

Re: Update2

Reeperette /

Ok, the product is now (I think) available thru Walmart, under the Brand Name "No-Mor Flats", in the bicycle aisle.

The correct one for Tomos is the 20"x2.125 model.

Model # 20B8

Runs about $16.96, which is around the cost of a pair of moped tubes, so it seems a pretty good investment.

They also appear to have a website at

http://www.NoMorFlats.com

Worth a shot, I figure,

-R

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David F Martin /

Sorry to change the subject, for a second. I'm bumping this up (see "Playing Tricks?" thread)...

david

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