MOPED ARMY

oh hell yes, once you ride it you will forget all about mopeds. that's a real classic. the price in my area is about 1000 to 1200.

Love em. If it's cheap buy it up.

"How are these to work on? 70cc Honda four stroke, right? Bulletproof? Tell me what I need to know about these. I don’t wanna Lifan swap, no way."

Ok so basically I have/had the same train of thought when I bought my cub. First off when working on a cub you'll notice they are way fucking more heavy than a moped. Picking them up and setting them on a table isn't easy and I'm a big guy.

Next you're going to have to get some feeler gauges and learn to adjust valves. Not a big deal, but it must be learned and must be done. Valves out of whack will make the bike run bad and you'll chase your tail messing with the carb. Start with the valve adjustment first thing!

Also you talk about not wanting to Lifan swap, when you hit the cub Facebook groups, that's all they talk about.

I had a stuck valve and was told many times lifan swap doood! Ugh, annoying. I did fix it and it was a pita and Expensive tracking down all the n.o.s. seals, orings and such.

That being said, any transmission trouble should = a swap. And transmission issues are not unheard of on these bikes, I think even if the kickstarter gear messes up you're in for big work on those bikes.

These bikes are legendary but they're also old as fuck, I'm glad I had mine and had some fun messing with it. But ultimately it made me appreciate the simplicity of my mopeds much more!(edited)

I LOVE the passports. they can be tricky registration-wise depending on state.

as mentioned there's a lot of exra to learn working on them, but it's not particularly that much more difficult. Timing chain to remove the head, valve adjustments etc, and all the gears if you rebuild, it's a good in-between for learning mopeds. parts are super easily available but not as cheap as one becomes accustomed to with mopeds.

lifan swap to me is a pretty huge copout but they're fine engines. it's the lazy-man's kit for these. Most of the people, at least younger folks, riding these are coming on this wave of enthusiasm for them, they're a cool "and" bike, like they fit as an accessory if you already have a big bike - they're cheap enough and small enough you can have both. And right now theyre very trendy to build customs with in the moto-dude-blogger sphere. that said, most of those focus heavily on frame mods and big custom aesthetics, while nobody wants to fuck around tinkering with the old 45mph engine when they can drop a grand on a complete turnkey 150cc pitster pushing 15hp. From a motorcycle perspective a $600 performance engine is nothin' and it's more a showpiece than a regular commuter so how it works matters a lot less than how it reads in a write-up or showing off to pals.

I concur. The 82 had a different battery cover w/ a small flat head screw instead of a nice big knob.

For $400 just snatch it up. Nice little bikes and everyone I know that has one loves it. It's actually been on my list.

Worse comes to worse, clean it a little and you could probably get more than what you paid as it. Especially if it's titled

And yeah, listen to what people are saying above about registration. Most places reg them as motorcycles so that's going to cost you more.

CT seems great that way. Don't even need titles on bikes (10 years ago anyway). It drove CA DMV nuts and they wouldn't title my Urban even after showing them the CT law (morons). Finally had to contact the main state office and beg them to take my money. Gee, at that point they relented. These idiots can't handle anything outside their wheel houses.

I love passing 70cc Honda’s with a stock tuned 50 cc puch Murray, pinto or magnum moped,

Overrated, overpriced much harder to work on, when riding six of my puch bikes I see in my mirror 75-90cc Honda four stroke’s but only after a few miles then they’re so way behind!

I stopped at the state park not too far away from me this summer with my 60mph 64cc Polini Maxi while he was was on a 90cc Honda ugly as sin whatever kind a apocalypse bike and he said how the heck are you’re so much faster,

I said “how many two stroke bikes have you on your life” and he said done and I said that’s why”

Knowing how to tune puch Maxis/magnums to blow away Honda's up to xl 125s though XL 175 I lived with it for a few weeks and it was a pretty cool bike!

Ken loves his 20 second video looking at an old, vibrating speedo

they have their place, i suppose this should technically get bumped over to OT. its winter so who cares.

my brother rode my dad's on 'JTT' a few years ago, wasn't at the front of the pack but did a 200 mile + weekend with a bunch of kitted mopeds and held its own no problem. You also gotta remember that old guys that ride them don't push them as hard as they can. My dad granny shifts it and only goes like 30 because he thinks the RPM's are too high at anything over 30 mph. I pretty much redline it in every single gear. Its bone stock and does just about 40, its not making much torque at those high rpms because its outside of the power band, so it will speed up a lot down hills and slow down to 35 going up a big grade, but you can climb just about anything and never dip below 35.

I had a '72 c70 a few years back that i put a pitbike carb, drilled exhaust, hopped it up a little bit, that thing went an honest 45 top speed and could climb hills doing it because it was making so much more top end torque. Someday i'd like to do a mild performance build and mill the head, cam it, big carb, obnoxious pipe... see where you could get. Most hondas from the era respond really well to 'phase 1' tweaks and derestrictions but after that they kinda plateau. When we raced the CB160/175's you could get quite a bit out of them by milling the head, retarding the cam, going to PE22 carbs, and piping them... but after that they didn't get much if any faster until you started getting crazy with big bore kits and reworked valves and stuff... the semi-hemi combustion chamber in them burns so slow that the typical cam work doesn't yield much, and Soichiro and team already had them producing pretty good power for the displacement.

I should have gone the VT route. Would have saved me money. To get a title on another bike I had to bring in a death certificate from my brother and say it was his. You have to get creative with these guys.

With my luck I'd actually get pulled over by a cop who knows how the bike should actually be registered.

I didn’t get to it in time. I’m surprised, because it’s been for sale for a while. I didn’t really want it anyway. If I’m gonna have a four stroke, I’d rather it be a ct.