Before you shit on electrics, I'm still willing to allow em, at least when it's electric mopeds/nopeds. Like escooters can go hang with scooters and ebikes can chill with motorized bicycle children - but it's pretty worthwhile to consider the electric conversions like shanghai and personal custom builds like that dude in Jacksonville, and the market-ready electric mopeds like zero and onyx. We're in the same ring
Anyway, there's another one on IndieGOGO, looks pretty slick, Rottwellmeyer Otto -
style theyre clearly aiming at a pre-assembled version of the Shanghai customs cub conversion, the intentional downtube is a nice improvement but the rigid rear is a repeated kick in the butt.
Still at a trager of under 3500 that's pretty legit, looks pretty good, and nice set of specs, 3kW motor should be just shy of 40 and around a 40 mi range. rad!