Not exactly a moped but still a puch

I may be getting a sears sabre.

They aren't as common as a say a puch maxi but aren't exactly rare either.

What can I expect from it? The old ads say it's 5hp - is that accurate?

I know there aren't any performance parts but can it be ported?

How hard are they to work on? I'm pretty good with working on the more common peds but this manual shift thing is a different beast.

The paint has been messed with in the past so I have no problem with not necessarily restoring it to original condition.

Thanks in advance for your help

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Whaddya mean there's tons of performance parts for these engines...prolly gotta get em from overseas tho.

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I had no idea. That's good news.

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Yup puchshop.de...

If I recall right bore x stroke is identical to the e/za50. so if you ditch the forced air cooling you can run any kit ..but puchshop does have the correct radial finned kits as well..

Don't buy anything until you know what size ur wristpin is tho.

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Oh man...i can throw a kit on it? Will removing the shroud make it run too hot?

From what I can see its missing the chain guard. It's not an enclosed chain in oil thingy is it? Is that even a thing?

In missouri I should register it as a motorcycle due to the manual transmission. I'll get to that bridge when I cross it.

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supposedly they scoot along pretty good just stock

treats has a 60cc kit for them, or at least they did for awhile.

i bet ported with a hack-on pipe would be ripper.

yeah they are super cool, i'd love to get a ratty one i didn't feel bad messing with... that looks perfecto

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Overpriced Parts /

> Graham Motzing Wrote:

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> supposedly they scoot along pretty good just stock

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> treats has a 60cc kit for them, or at least they did for awhile.

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> i bet ported with a hack-on pipe would be ripper.

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> yeah they are super cool, i'd love to get a ratty one i didn't feel bad

> messing with... that looks perfecto

That kit did not fit on a Saber A lot of fin cutting and modifications would be needed

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I did a little searching and found a lot of pictures of the vz50 which Im assuming is the European version of the Sears Sabre.

Was there any difference between the two?

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Those bikes are really cool, but the lack of parts support in the US is what scared me away from them. These engines also are known for having a fragile transmission.

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More pictures!

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Front fender no original. Engine looks complete. Non stock pipe.

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Looks like a really cool bike, now that you’ve got more pictures of it. Looks like you’ll have a lot of fun with it.

Edit: Are you the dude selling the TT Tomos on Craigslist too? (edited)

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Yep. That's me.

Sometimes I just like to trade for something interesting.

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> Mark Miller Wrote:

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> Sometimes I just like to trade for something interesting.

I can relate, I’ve got some interesting stuff too.

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looks very fun/cool/crusty. i agree with graham in that id prefer one a little ruff around the edges so i can feel good bout messing with it and having fun. wack and weathered paint? yee haw. knobbies? fux yes.

keep us posted!

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Ill likely paint the frame. Black I think. Or maybe BRG. I guess it was originally red. I dont like red. Though, if red, the blood won't show when I wipe out on it because I never rode a manual shift bike before.

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Your Sabre looks very similar to the old Tomos bike with manual transmissions. APN and 14 to be specific

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I got it today!

It was hard to say goodbye to my tomos but I think this project is going to be worth it. First things first. ...and forgive me because this is a total noob question... But how do I kick it? Seems like in nutral I dont hear the piston but in another gear the rear wheel moves. Could be a transmission problem or just operator error or worse.

BTW. I'll start anything new about this bike in the off topic section since this isn't a moped.

Bonus- he found the metal saddle bags (or toolboxes or whatever) and he gave me the manual.

Ok enough... See you in off topic

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VZ50 is a different motor to the Sabre. Sabre has a 'M' motor that is very uncommon. I believe only the Sabre for the US market got it.

Here is more information .

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Huh, that might be normal. Not sure, good luck!

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Paul Boyer (OFMC) /

Check this one out.

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That's purdy

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I posted this in the off topic post but here's how she looks painted one color.

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