Anti-Theft Options for Mopeds

Hey everyone. I live in a big city. Wondering what some of you do to prevent your moped from being stolen? Best locks, trackers, etc?

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Hidden kill-switch is my plan. I'll probably wire up something madmax fury road style then just sheath all cables in anti-cut housing. Got the idea from people who own be westfalia vans.

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The best tracker is an iPhone! Literally if you wanted to you could buy an iPhone with a service plan and hide it somewhere on the bike with a charging port (maybe even a battery cell to recharge it).

Now if someone steals you bike just use the find my phone app.

Steve Jobs is like wow!

Thats after the theft happens. If you want to pervent theft don’t I mean do not buy really nice one off builds, hand made parts and high priced ignitions ( those guys won’t just steal any bike) & they usually scout the bike out for a few days so make sure to not to park in the same place. Always lock the bike!

They want the bike for the performance parts so they can gut it and pretty much just make the frame disappear only to be left with performance parts that no one can tell where stole from the previous legal owner.

I bought a engine from lucky two stroke with the Vin numbers removed but I doubt they had any part in that. (edited)

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Beach Club Nick /

The only way to make pretty sure your shit doesn't get stolen is:

A. Lock it the fuck up with at least one kryptonite chain lock. I use the kryptonite New York 1210. Use the u-lock to go through either a front disc or rear sprocket and chain it to something heavy. Not a stop sign, I've seen people cut stop signs to steal bikes. I've also seen people unbolt bike racks to steal shit, make sure whatever you're attached to is cemented down.

B. Buy a cover, cover that shit up. If people can't see it, they're so much less likely to want to steel it. This is almost as important as the lock.

C. Keep it where you can hear when someone's fucking with it. Buy a gun if possible. I've had to confront someone before, and I just have a shitty .22 but their attitude changed real fast when they realized they couldn't just beat the shit out of me.

D. Don't Hoon it around where you live. I made this mistake with a beautiful ke100. Used to rip wheelies all up and down my street. Kept it parked outside my window, forks locked and gas tank locked but not locked to anything. Fuckers stole it at 10:30 on a Tuesday night.

E. Buy theft insurance. It sucks when your bike gets stolen and you're just out of everything cause you only had liability.

I've been living in inner-city Baltimore this summer. First day I moved in I unloaded my Hobbit and CB125 and the neighbor came over and told me how his scooter was stolen the day he moved in next door and that there were several attempts to steal his disc-locked motorcycle. In 3 months I haven't had a single attempt on my bike. And I see people riding stolen bikes all over my neighborhood. I kept my shit chained heavy, covered, and tucked into a corner of my yard (underneath my bedroom window) that made it harder to notice.

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Locks and heavy chains to make your bike a pain in the ass to steal.

Keep in mind that some thiefs are assholes and they will cut your plug wire or open the petcock and cut your fuel line if they are pissed about not being abe to steal your ride. Park it where you have the chance to get in a clean shot if someone is messing with it.

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Maybe post this sign ::

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No matter how well you protect it someone is always capable of getting it.

If its outta site its outta mind. (edited)

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Probably Fred /

> Rebel Moby Wrote:

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> Locks and heavy chains to make your bike a pain in the ass to steal.

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> Keep in mind that some thiefs are assholes and they will cut your plug

> wire or open the petcock and cut your fuel line if they are pissed about

> not being abe to steal your ride. Park it where you have the chance to

> get in a clean shot if someone is messing with it.

Ya I’m afraid you’re right, if they can’t steal it they will damage it and being able to see it in plain view is a must,

Only really had a problem once but long while ago I went to a Walmart quite a ways from my house on a mint lo mi magnum mkll to buy oil after the last motorcycle shop that had 2t stuff in my area had “closed for good” sign on the door,

I locked the stock fork lock and with a thick cable with a big key lock I locked my bike to shopping cart corral part way down the main aisle, wasn’t too happy with the location because it was blocked with a big handicap van and a beat up pickup truck,

I was only in for about 10 minutes and when I came came out the pick up truck was gone, The cart corral was actually moved, the bike was sideways off the stand and resting against plastic side cover,

The cable was chewed/chopped up a bit but it held and the forks were moved like someone was trying to work them loose, so being that they weren’t successful in stealing it they snapped the petcock lever off and slit my nice like new magnum seat straight across the back,

The light switch and kill switch bases were broken off too maybe because they were jerking the handlebars back-and-forth, side cover and chain cover had gouges in it too, There was no cctv video so I didn’t get the police involved, It took 200$ to make it mint again,

Lesson learned, if I ever have to go somewhere unfamiliar I bring at least two locks and chains, lock the forks and use what makes for a good moped cover, a large barbecue grill cover and tie straps

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Huh, I thought the iPhone only had cellular triangulation and not GPS...might be looking into that. An old prepaid iPhone sounds like a good solution...

I had a cellular GPS dog collar tracker mounted into a little cubby in the seat foam of my hobbit...batteries lasted a week or two, and I think that I bought it with a $9 a month promotion back then...normal price is like $20 a month now I think...

Insignia little buddy was the best deal until they shut the servers down..little kid tracker went on firesale for $25 w/ no monthly fee...I'm sure people here bought a ton of them...

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Dirty30 Dillon /

Rocco won't spend money on chain lube but he'll suggest you buy an Iphone with data to build into your bike.

LOCK the bike with a good chain and lock. Kryptonite is great, but I have a couple OnGuard locks that are pretty sturdy and much more reasonable. If you can lock to something hard and immovable, do it.

COVER IT. I have left bikes street parked in Brooklyn with just the fork lock and a cover and haven't had any issues.

Probably the most important thing is to not leave it static. Most theft is opportunity based. If your bike has been sitting in the same spot all month with the cover half-off, people take notice. Even unmotivated thieves will double take a bike they have noticed neglected.

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i second everything Nick said, but want to add one thing.

this:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M4MG0YT/

is SUPER touchy and will go off with movement. 1st time it beeps 3 times, if hit again within 5 mins, it goes off and it's loud AF. if there's any locks that will hold them up, it'll definitely be drawing some attention.

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alarms are a good way to scare folks off. once. but if an alarm goes off and you still have the bike, move it. anywhere else, let it live with a friend for a month, because they will be back, and they'll know better. Because now there's pride on the line in addition to a bike. Same with any protection, if you see someone tried to steal it once, get it out of there for a while.

And good locks. Most thefts are convenience, they'll take whatever's the easiest to grab. there is no perfect lock, but you really just have to be less convenient to steal than the next bike. Like lock it to something solid with something solid.

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Remember to lock your covers down too. Had one of mine stolen and was told sometimes the homeless or tweakers steal them to cover shopping carts they're pushing around.

I now carry an extra ignition, because I've had some aholes try and pop my ignition a couple of times at the train station before I started using covers. At least they have good heavy duty lock stations there, and there's plenty of unlocked, uncovered bikes for the tweakers to choose from.

I still need to borrow a masonry drill and get some of those kryptonite anchor bolts down in the garage.

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> Born to be WillD Wrote:

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> alarms are a good way to scare folks off. once. but if an alarm goes off

> and you still have the bike, move it. anywhere else, let it live with a

> friend for a month, because they will be back, and they'll know better.

> Because now there's pride on the line in addition to a bike. Same with

> any protection, if you see someone tried to steal it once, get it out of

> there for a while.

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> And good locks. Most thefts are convenience, they'll take whatever's the

> easiest to grab. there is no perfect lock, but you really just have to

> be less convenient to steal than the next bike. Like lock it to

> something solid with something solid.

Will is right again!

I recently supplied my neighbor with video from four of my cameras of two young punks that successfully stole his high-end scooter. As it turned out, the police found it abandoned in an alley a block away in less than 24 hours. The neighbor had already been up and down that alley twice, so it was not initially abandoned there. That all happened a little over a week ago.

I'll be damned if I didnt catch a different mutha focker last night trying to steal it again. Ya, 75 foot up in my yard wearing a black sock hat in 80 degree weather and eye fucking his scooter.

I dont think he will be back. Hopefully he lets all the neighborhood punks know too.

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I hate neighborhood kids for the same reason. Had them "borrow" one of mine but the cops caught them within an hour out joyriding (heck this was 20 years ago when the cops actually took calls like this). I'm sure it was the same little pricks who came back and stole it from the garage while I was out of country. This time the cops wouldn't take a report from the neighbors who had been watching it. They said "I might have loaned it to someone." I'd still like to find and castrate them. I loved that bike. All stock, 13K miles, and no issues other than basic maintenance. Sniff

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Just to piggy back onto this topic:

What do people do in cities that have laws against parking moped on sidewalks and on bike racks i.e. Chicago?

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> Addison Duke Wrote:

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> Just to piggy back onto this topic:

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> What do people do in cities that have laws against parking moped on

> sidewalks and on bike racks i.e. Chicago?

For me, sometimes I'll do it anyway. I'd rather pay the ticket than lose the bike. The cops usually have something else to do unless it's been parked in the middle of the sidewalk. Just don't lock it to a stop sign or whatever. The tweakers will cut through it with an angle grinder

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> Addison Duke Wrote:

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> Just to piggy back onto this topic:

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> What do people do in cities that have laws against parking moped on

> sidewalks and on bike racks i.e. Chicago?

Its hit or miss, in NYC certain parts of the city will have your bike towed for sidewalk parking, or street parking. NYPD makes their own rules because they're pigs.

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Cleats Onionpockets /

This question is exactly why my bike remains unfinished....I can't justify parking it outside, and I don't have a secure place to lock it to when I'm home since the apartment building doesn't allow gas engines to be stored in the bike room.

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Dirty30 Dillon /

> Addison Duke Wrote:

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> Just to piggy back onto this topic:

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> What do people do in cities that have laws against parking moped on

> sidewalks and on bike racks i.e. Chicago?

You have three choices in NYC for exterior moped parking.

1) Chain up on sidewalk and take the chance. Legally, you cannot park on the sidewalk but NYC riders have had a very high success rate with refuting the tickets in court.

2) Chain up on street and take the chance someone roll sit away. I have street parked motos and mopeds in Manhattan during work, and some overnight in Brooklyn, without a problem, but it's definitel risky to not chain it to something and requires a cover.

3) Rent a garage/shop space. Sucks that city space is so expensive, but it's the only way you'll be assured that your bike will 100% be there in the am

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♣Slew Foot♣ /

Everybody always wants to get a GPS tracker one of the best ones is geodot.

It uses a cell phone network and I think it's Sprint but you have to pay $15 month for the line there is also something new out there that uses radio frequency and not the internet they come in pairs it's meant for a kid and the others for a parent and you can track without anybody even knowing so you could fill in the blanks but living in the hood for 10 years plus with five mopeds I've learned that if they want it bad enough it doesn't matter how many locks you have I had a motobecane vlx and they opened or hacked 1 Master Lock 1 crypto and the fork and it was all within 5 minutes they used Freon and a hammer so my advice is to forget about all your locks leave the shit anywhere you want and just insurance for theft for an agreed value that's over the price of the moped it came out to 88 bucks a month through Progressive and when I had it I had such a peace of mind because it included full boat concierge I mean I got ran off the road and one of my cables broke at 3 a.m. they came and pick my ass up on a back Country Road in the middle of nowhere another time they paid me 250 bucks because my bike fell over in a windstorm and my headlight bucket got smashed I mean seriously for a $600 a year policy I made close to three grand after it was stolen after two claims for minor repairs they won't give me full boat anymore unless I have a new bike

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Nicolas DiGirolamo /

Ok time to bandwagon on this thread after reading. Anyone know of a good alarm one taht I could put on my Honda hobbit. I can’t do the one someone linked as it is not a disc brake. I also plan to hide an apple AirTag in my seat cushion to help locate in the event of a theft. Also what is the best spots to lock the bike down on.

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I was told this is the anti theft seat

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Nicolas DiGirolamo /

> Cody Frost wrote:

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> I was told this is the anti theft seat

Lmao I live that. Too bad my seat isn’t as easy to take off

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Someplace out of sight where the bike can be locked to something secured in concrete. I used to lock my bike to a stairwell pillar behind my old apartment, and covered it with a plastic painter's tarp (kryptonite NY chain, plus a U-lock through one of the wheels). Even with this, someone did steal my cover, toolkit, and spark plugs once.

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The Oxford Terraforce Ground Anchor in concrete is great if you have a yard you can dig up. Then pewag 1/2” chain with a good lock. Multiple chains and locks is more fun though. Oxford Beast chain seems to be a good option for being mobile. The idea about the airtag ‘in’ the seat is excellent, I may have to start doing this.

UK has some security ratings on locks and chain and test everything. May have been Bennetts that does all the angle grinder attack tests etc.

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Simon Belmont /

You need 3 things:

1 - Make sure your moped looks as bad/dirty/unappealing as possible

Wrap it around with tape everywhere, make sure parts of the tape have rips in them

If you have a fender or cover that's worn out or rust is showing that's a huge plus

2 - Use heavy duty chain and lock at least 7/16 in thickness, I recommend "Pewag" chain since their hardness is 62 HRC. Make sure the chain is about 5ft long and your bike is secured to a really heavy object such as light post (not street sign).

3 - Make sure the bike is chained up within line of sight from your window and keep your ears open for the sound of angle grinders, pay close attention.

If you're going to use "cover" they will always lift the cover to see if taking the bike is worth the effort, so a lot of times you will see your cover lifted at least half way and the bike will still be locked to a stationary object if it looks rough enough. (edited)

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If you’re just sweating at home get a shitty van. Then you get a mobile garage.

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Van works!

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