Puch E50 points stator plate

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Anyone here try one of these from treats? I need a IGNITION coil winding and this looks like it might be a good deal.

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Overpriced Parts /

That coil winding is for lights and power,

it has the black combined internal spark coil and spark plug wire for spark without an external coil

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Ken really doesn’t like those black box ignition coil and I can finally see why.

When those black boxes get to hot they start to melt. Iv ruined multiple flywheels doing this. Also they fit a lot tighter then stock so your flywheel clearance sucks.

Stock igtions setups are just as easy if not easier to set up and you actually can seal the magneto wire port with the stock rubber plug so no fucking dust stones get inside the flywheel and scratch it.

I will never buy a black box again.

Thank you ken, sorry it only took my like three years to notice the stock ignition set up is way better. (edited)

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***Kim Jong illest*** /

^^^^

i dont know what the fuck hes talking about up there or how his shit got too tight and melted, that is some serious user error there.

these internal ignition coils are the bees knees. there a couple of things you should do before installing one though. First, get a bosch condenser when you order it and replace the condenser thats in it. you dont HAVE to, but the condensers that come with these have about a 40% failure rate. maybe youll get lucky and the coin flips in your favor but better be safe than sorry

second, and this is a new thing ive started to notice. the points on these have a tendency to float at high rpm if you dont REALLY tighten down the screw. so before installing, take the points screw out, put some red loctite threadlocker on itthen put the screw about 3/4 of the way in. put your flywheel on, then set the points and REALLY crank down that screw. let the threadlocker cure, then start it up.

take these steps and this stator will provide you with insane spark for a good long time. plus you get the benefit of 12v lights. you can power everything on a stock wiring harness with this without having to change anything either, because it isnt a super high wattage coil, unlike the treats cdi (80+watts!!!)

if its making the flywheel tight, or melting or whatever you have done something terribly, terribly wrong.

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> ***Vanilla Thunder*** Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> ^^^^

>

> i dont know what the fuck hes talking about up there or how his shit got

> too tight and melted, that is some serious user error there.

>

> these internal ignition coils are the bees knees. there a couple of

> things you should do before installing one though. First, get a bosch

> condenser when you order it and replace the condenser thats in it. you

> dont HAVE to, but the condensers that come with these have about a 40%

> failure rate. maybe youll get lucky and the coin flips in your favor but

> better be safe than sorry

>

> second, and this is a new thing ive started to notice. the points on

> these have a tendency to float at high rpm if you dont REALLY tighten

> down the screw. so before installing, take the points screw out, put

> some red loctite threadlocker on itthen put the screw about 3/4 of the

> way in. put your flywheel on, then set the points and REALLY crank down

> that screw. let the threadlocker cure, then start it up.

>

> take these steps and this stator will provide you with insane spark for

> a good long time. plus you get the benefit of 12v lights. you can power

> everything on a stock wiring harness with this without having to change

> anything either, because it isnt a super high wattage coil, unlike the

> treats cdi (80+watts!!!)

>

> if its making the flywheel tight, or melting or whatever you have done

> something terribly, terribly wrong.

All that trouble all that reengineering and you could buy a used puch 6 wire for around 30 bucks on this forum,

You may fix bikes and sell bikes but After they’re sold who knows what goes on!

I mean just buying an original condenser could be 10 to 20 bucks depending on shipping so why bother with reengineering that piece of crap aftermarket junk and adding a original condenser and bull crap to make it work!

I have my fleet of personal bikes plus dozens I sold over the decades,

The stock puch 6 wire ignition is the bees knees!

My hi-powered polini and Gila kitted bikes I built 10-15 years ago with stock 40year old stock ignitions still work great,

Ya hpi ignition with curve is best for performance but it’s not a plug in my six wire wiring that has turn signals and everything,

The cheap India cdi, Power dynamo, 1 and 2 gen hpi failed on me so many miles from home making me stuck for hrs and having to get picked up everytime so I’m nervous ever trying anything but stock ignition ever again,

12 miles for me is around the block so stock points ignition if I have trouble I fix it right on the side the road in minutes if I have a problem (but it’s been so many years that I ever had a problem I don’t even know when),

when you go spark-less on electronic ignition you can’t fix it on the side of the road unless you have a backpack full of components!

To get back on topic the guy just wants the coil to work for his Italian bike not use that complete junk India Stator,

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> ***Vanilla Thunder*** Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> ^^^^

>

> i dont know what the fuck hes talking about up there or how his shit got

> too tight and melted, that is some serious user error there.

On a stock setup they are okay but on High rpm kitted bikes they suck and melt eventually.

My flywheel gets hot maybe your doesn’t I don’t know.

I’m talking about the clearances between the flywheel magnets and the coil magnets.

Yea I run my flywheel stuck. Seriously dude?! Eat some rooster (edited)

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***Kim Jong illest*** /

italian bike? wtf are you on about ken?

rocco, ive put these on dozens of bikes. stock to kitted. 50cc to 80cc. never had one melt ever. im assuming from your story that you must have been making some kind of contact somewhere, probably a worn flywheel. either way, loosening the bolts to the coils will allow you to move them ever so slightly before re-tightening them.

i mean i can eat all the rooster you want but it isnt going to change the fact that you either had a bad part or put it on wrong.

its not the stator, the stators are great. use common sense, put things together like you work on motors and itll be fine.

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Overpriced Parts /

> ***Vanilla Thunder*** Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> italian bike? wtf are you on about ken?

>

> rocco, ive put these on dozens of bikes. stock to kitted. 50cc to 80cc.

> never had one melt ever. im assuming from your story that you must have

> been making some kind of contact somewhere, probably a worn flywheel.

> either way, loosening the bolts to the coils will allow you to move them

> ever so slightly before re-tightening them.

>

> i mean i can eat all the rooster you want but it isnt going to change

> the fact that you either had a bad part or put it on wrong.

>

> its not the stator, the stators are great. use common sense, put things

> together like you work on motors and itll be fine.

Stock is best

Don’t even order aftermarket nothing

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