MOPED ARMY

I actually purchased a 2010 Tomos Streetmate to convert to an EV after reading about the ONYX, FLY FREE and of course, ZERO bikes. They look like a TON of fun! 8hp and 120 ft/lb of torque and 150 mile/gallon equivalent! Sign me up! I'm only getting into mopeds because of the electric (stealthy quiet) models that are coming out :)

I'd definitely put an engine on one those... If they have the charge while you pedal thing then that'd be neat

Agreed. This is a still born child. You're trying to capitalize on a trend. (edited)

Laws and regulations will catch up with having this much fun is my prediction. I like the ONYX bikes but don't get the same feeling about electric stuff although it is the "future" of mopeds. That being said it won't kill the 2stroke scene, only make it stonger as these become more popular or the government regulates them to death.

These look like a lot of fun, especially since the battery technology is better, and regenerative braking, too? That’s cool. I’ll wait for these things to come down to the same prices as a new Tomos or Bye Bike. (edited)

It looks pretty wel built but i really dislike the gynormous white triangle. 60 is damn fast, how long does it take to drain the battery when youre in sportsmode?

yeah it's pretty neat, but where do I get an OEM or perfect fit drop in replacement battery in 30 years?

lol

new battery tech will hit the market by the time you need to replace this one

Also batteries are already basically OEM parts now if you know the business

I guarantee I know more about batteries than anyone in this thread, but its easy to learn. I just see a lot of misinformation posted here

They make a version with black panels. ;)

Oh yea absolutely, I work on the chemistry side of battery materials too. It's just the cost side of things that gets me. Like half the bike's cost or more is just the batteries, and theyre a limited lifetime part.

But then again, you give the batteries a "lifetime" of 5 years, they'd be considered not good, but should still manage 50-80% capacity, that's still plenty. and for sure theyre getting more available and cheaper, especially as demand goes up = economy of scale. in 5 years you can make a replacement battery fit in there and have bonus power to boot. And that's definitely a BENEFIT here too - theyre pretty modular and upgradable the way mopeds are. Get a kit, later get a bigger carb and intake - electrics maybe you boost voltage or swap a new controller, dissipate heat better or add gearing somewhere.

It's important for context though, I'm not trying to spend money on nice things. this i'd definitely call a nice thing. But like I still got an iPhone4...

haha they are lithium battery cells staked like car batteries. electric is the future for replacing two strokes.....they are light motors & are able to run in any position great for replacing weed wackers and chain saws unlike 4 strokes. only thing that can make them even better is that they give out full power at any rpm.

yea they need to work on the battery but ever time we make a better battery it just gets more expensive. everyone still uses acid battery in their cars because liuthuim cost $300 plus. maybe if we invested all our time, we could make a better, more affordable, smaller,lighter battery but there is so much else that it would effect. no more war,no more gas station but it would open alot of new jobs and we could go from saying how much hp to how many watts (edited)

747 watts = 1 hp :)

"You can't really buy them any more since they were limited run."??? OYNX has them listed at $3,600.00, So they must be trying to get shipping back on it for the 4999 they asking for?

shipping is $1400? lol