Rain day here so I installed a new filter. The arrow is correct to carb, no leaks, crimps, valve set to run, even cracked fuel cap open . Does this take forever to fill? I even got it to run hoping it would siphon. Any ideas?
What's THAT filter for? Normally use a paper-pleated filter,Les. They are best. That one might require pressure to work,I dunno.
Got it at Treats, moped inline filter, Don
Can you level it instead of upright position? They will always show air. That is normal.Still,paper pleated is best to keep all dirt out of carb.
The inside is fine mesh, like the petcock tank filter. I will figure it out. Not much room under there.
Yeah,you'll be surprised that the mesh(at least all those I've tried) will actually let some dirt through, and won't absorb any water like the pleated ones.
It's fine. They never completely fill up because once the needle in the carb closes fuel flow stops. It will eventually get about half full or a little over but never completely full.
> Don Ohio Wrote:
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> Yeah,you'll be surprised that the mesh(at least all those I've tried)
> will actually let some dirt through, and won't absorb any water like the
> pleated ones.
This is true also.
Sometimes the gaskets aren't seated right, you can put a wrench on either side and unscrew those filters. I got a leaky one new and fixex it. If my gas is flowing right you can see alot more in the filter than that!
It's not leaking.. it's just not filling up.. I'm gonna see if can re route the line tomorrow.. if that fails I'm taking it the fuck off.
> Les B. Wrote:
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> It's not leaking.. it's just not filling up.. I'm gonna see if can re
> route the line tomorrow.. if that fails I'm taking it the fuck off.
If there's a high point in the fuel line before it reaches the filter , there may be an air dam there . If that's the case , there should still be a bit of fuel getting by the air bubble . Try to run the line as straight as possible . All down hill .
Leave the filter in the upright position .
Open the carb bowl drain screw and let fuel run . You should see fuel travel through the filter . It may not completely fill .
Didn't think of that PD! Will try....
Well, whatever,it's okay, but I like the filter horizontal because of seeing any water inside it. A little water goes a LONG way on a moped.LOL!
Know one understands physics here. Burp the line. It's easy
Do this.
Pull off carb line, hold clamped end of hose with hemostats or needle nose up higher than fuel level in tank. Turn petcock on, loosen the crimp and watch the air come out of the hose. Then lower the end of hose until no more air in the filter, then clamp again, turn off fuel and put back onto carb.
Sometimes you have to smack the filter a bit to get all the air into the line and redo the procedure to get all air out.
And yeah, these do suck.
Paper will stop particles this filter lets thru. I run big paper filters on every bike and rarely if ever get float needles clogged up
> JBOT Admin Wrote:
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> Know one understands physics here. Burp the line. It's easy
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> Do this.
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> Pull off carb line, hold clamped end of hose with hemostats or needle
> nose up higher than fuel level in tank. Turn petcock on, loosen the
> crimp and watch the air come out of the hose. Then lower the end of hose
> until no more air in the filter, then clamp again, turn off fuel and put
> back onto carb.
>
> Sometimes you have to smack the filter a bit to get all the air into the
> line and redo the procedure to get all air out.
That's essentially what happens when the float bowl drain is opened and fuel allowed to flow . It may not happen as quickly , but ...
Thanks everyone! Rookie mistake! I was psyched about getting all my goodies in the mail, I fugged up and didn't notice I ran the fuel line over the throttle cable,DUH....looked at it this morning after going thru all the posts again. Work slow, work right. ;) now it's snowing.....
You guys have Problems with dirt in Carbs?
> Chöschi21 C.K. Wrote:
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> You guys have Problems with dirt in Carbs?
Not with paper-pleated filters,we don't.
When I did the Bravo, and I think it was the first time. There was a plaque type dirt that I had to Q tip loose in the carb. Stayed clean all summer.cleaned before winter. Also advised to shut fuel off, and run the carb dry. The Tomos was " cleaned" by the guy who flipped it. It was dirty, banjo filter did it's job.did same as the Bravo. But everybody swears by in line filters , so I'm going to try them. Plus the one I installed is able to come apart to clean. We will see.
In line fuel filters are simply one of the cheapest insurances to be had .
Unlike a lot of insurances , the results can be seen with the naked eye . ;)
I am not running one on my Maxi, never had a problem, the Carb doesn't have a filter, only the Petcock has the normal/stock one.
> Seth B Wrote:
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> These are the ones I use. I bought them on Amazon in a 10 pack. I
> currently have six in service with no problems.
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I bought these exact filters on Amazon in a 10 pack, they didnt filter for sh!t. Most of them weren't even filters! The pleated paper was just bouncing around inside there all willy nilly, not affixed to anything inside.
> Brandon Weiss (Detective brandon to you) Wrote:
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> > These are the ones I use. I bought them on Amazon in a 10 pack. I
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> > currently have six in service with no problems.
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> I bought these exact filters on Amazon in a 10 pack, they didnt filter
> for sh!t. Most of them weren't even filters! The pleated paper was just
> bouncing around inside there all willy nilly, not affixed to anything
> inside.
You must have gotten some Monday morning 'made' .
I use filters like that and have no problems . Mine came out of California , but , likely made by the same manufacturer .
> Brandon Weiss (Detective brandon to you) Wrote:
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> > These are the ones I use. I bought them on Amazon in a 10 pack. I
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> > currently have six in service with no problems.
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> I bought these exact filters on Amazon in a 10 pack, they didnt filter
> for sh!t. Most of them weren't even filters! The pleated paper was just
> bouncing around inside there all willy nilly, not affixed to anything
> inside.
The ones I got just don’t flow for shit, lol. The manufacturing is so bad the filter is crooked in most of them and the nipples are half blocked by casting mess.
> Thomas TPRF Wrote:
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> The ones I got just don’t flow for shit, lol. The manufacturing is so
> bad the filter is crooked in most of them and the nipples are half
> blocked by casting mess.
Well , it does pay to spend that extra nickle , to go first class .
Even though it may look the same , doesn't mean they are the same . ;)
I don't know, Brandon. I haven't had any issues with this batch. I have six on runnIng bikes now, four left in the box, and all seem good. Maybe yours were made by a five year old in training.
https://www.treatland.tv/KARCOMA-paper-DISC-fuel-filter-5mm-p/karcoma-fuel-filter-version-1.htm I've been running these. Keeps out that superfine rust left over after a tank soak.
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