that could have been bad

ben henderson /

did some jet tuning on my tomos over the weekend,

then this morning my wife took my keys..and hers when she went to work.

So when it was time to take my 8yo son to school, I had no keys to my truck.

So it was the tomos to the rescue! Not a ton of fun to drive it in 50 degree weather but it got the job done.

But when I got home and put the kick stand down I noticed this bolt backing itself out. It nearly touches the frame. Could have been bad if it had backed out just a bit more! Glad I noticed it before I have to go pick my son up from school. Got to put some loctite on that and tighten up.

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Happened to me on a brand new StreetMate. Had to get the blue Loctite out and tighten it well.

Glad yer okay,Ben! Check all those sprocket bolts,everyone!

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Brandon Weiss (Detective brandon to you) /

It backed out even with the locking tab in place?

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In my case, I can't even remember how it did get loose..but the tab would've had to have not been locked down. In the pic , his looks like it is only partially bent down.

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Also possible the bolt broke. Let us know.

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Chase halatayi /

So wait you riding dubs with your 8 year old son?

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ben henderson /

kinda a one time thing, his school is only 1 mile away.

Naturally, he thought it was cool.

I removed the bolt and the threads on the inside of the hub were damaged.

Tried to tighten the bolt and it would just spin.

I know this wasn't the right way to fix, but I found a slightly larger bolt with courser

thread and ran that sucker in with my impact gun. I don't think it will come out again...possibly ever.

The locking tab on that bolt was the cause of the problem, it was only slightly bent up. The bolt must have been backed out for a bit to have damaged the threads in the hub they way it did.

the other 3 bolts are tight and the locking ring is snug against them.

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Any way you can put a nut inside there? That would be stronger than rethreading and you can keep the same sized bolt.

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> Don Ohio Wrote:

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> Any way you can put a nut inside there?

How do you think he landed a son?

Those should absolutely be nutted and locktited. I usually do allen bolts on the inside and nuts on the outside.

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> alex . Wrote:

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> > Don Ohio Wrote:

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> > Any way you can put a nut inside there?

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> How do you think he landed a son?

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> Those should absolutely be nutted and locktited. I usually do allen

> bolts on the inside and nuts on the outside.

Lock-nut ?

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Forget the Loctite.

Grease bolt threads, and use wedge-locking washers.

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kevin Smellaflange /

safety wire...now that u know.

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ben henderson /

> alex . Wrote:

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> > Don Ohio Wrote:

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> > Any way you can put a nut inside there?

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> How do you think he landed a son?

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> Those should absolutely be nutted and locktited. I usually do allen

> bolts on the inside and nuts on the outside.

I assumed since it felt threaded, that there was no nut on the inside. You would think I would hear the nut rattling on the inside if it had fallen off.

I found an exploded view for a tomos revival rear end, and it looks basically the same and does show that those 4 bolts would have nuts. Not sure if that is exactly the same as what came on the targa lx though.

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Yeah, I can't remember Ben. The Sebrings have nuts in the wheel. It would be a dumb engineering idea to have the steel bolts thread into an aluminum hub, IMO.

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Nobody has mentioned the 50 degree weather part?

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> Ben Whittle Wrote:

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> Nobody has mentioned the 50 degree weather part?

He just probably doesn't have a windshield and didn't dress warm enough for the ride...……..but it WAS only 2 miles. A `blink of an eye' to true moped riders.

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> Lolita ✌ Wrote:

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> Forget the Loctite.

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> Grease bolt threads, and use wedge-locking washers.

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> https://kk.org/cooltools/files/2016/11/nord-lock.jpg

those are great, but there isnt really the clearance for it in most sprocket nut applications

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