MOPED ARMY

Yep that’s me!

I only can get crap ohio 87 octane 5-10% alcohol gas

And it’s mixed with Walmart synthetic 2 stroke oil

or any brand synthetic oil really,

You know what my bikes can do/how they run ,

You can make any gasoline ethonal free instead of paying a dollar or more per gallon for "recreational gas"

Its not like you have to sit and watch or wait on 10 gallons to seperate on its own.

Shaken not stirred

Get too used to being spoon fed and whatta ya gonna do when things get bad??????? (edited)

I rock the ethanol free, as there is a station near me that has it, I run it in my old truck too, but my bikes run fine on regular, but for moped fuel needs the extra $ is worth it to me especially when putting bikes into storage. I like Castrol 2t or Yamalube for oil, Yamalube has run very clean for me,

I use propane and crisco

Cheapest gas and used motor oil

The Kawasaki doesn't seem to mind

I love poking the bear.

Suppose your name is "Colin" and you are 23 and your first and only motorized vehicle is a vintage moped. "Colin" lives 25 miles from the only gas station in the area that sells ethanol free gasoline.

"Colin" can't really stockpile large quantities of ethanol free gas where he lives because he can only carry the gas in his tank plus a one gallon plastic jug of gas that he can carry on his vintage moped.

By the time he drives his moped 50 miles round trip to get some ethanol free gas for his moped, his tank is running on reserve, so he can either spend all his time riding to and from the correct gas station only or he can carry some 2-cycle oil with him and mix gas whenever he needs to fuel up at ANY gas station.

Since he burns through a tank of ethanol gas in a matter of a day, how much "damage" to his rubber seal in his petcock or plastic fuel line will he do in a day? What else can he "damage" on his Pinto when his gas tank is always empty due to the amount of driving he does?

I have no doubt that real gas mixes with 2-cycle oil better, runs better, doesn't separate, doesn't turn into plastic when it evaporates in the tank, etc, but will it do all that in a matter of the 3 hours it takes "Colin" to empty his tank because he loves riding the bike so much?

A wise man told me something like "drive it till it dies, then rebuild it." His initials are "R.E."

In any of my motors I've only had real issues with ethanol when they've sat long periods of time. That usually means lawnmower or weed whacker over winter. I've read time and time again that ethanol can attack plastic and rubber bits, but I'm mostly fooling with stuff that's so old all those parts are dryrotted and done anyway.

I do fill the cans I keep at home with marine fuel as I figure they may sit for months and I live in a marsh. When I'm out blasting I fill up with whatever. I follow a friend's advice and don't buy hightest fuel from gas stations in poorer neighborhoods as it's more likely to be funky as it isn't used as much.

For oil I buy Yamalube online, Lucas at O'Reilly's, and if I've really run out the cheap one shotters at the gas station.

I know if you're tuning is on the edge these things may seriously matter but for the most part I think fuel issues come from bad tanks and lack of use. You can't expect to let an engine sit for six months with a quarter gallon of fuel in a forty year old tank and the system not get gummed up.

One gallon-o 87 in an old jerry can and 1/3 cup-o lucas oil.

I'd like to find some low ethanol fuel but ya know. Also I've thought about getting 97 but... Does it even matter?

BTW , premixed fuel is stabilized as good as any fuel with a stabilizer added .

I don't have any on line scientific proof . Just my own experience .

A short story : I 'inherited' an old Eska outboard motor from a brother in law . It had quit running some twenty plus years before . Along with the motor came a gas tank with a palm pressure pump in line . I torn the motor apart and repaired what was wrong . I went to go fill the tank , but , it was already full and had been since the motor quit twenty some years past . Being a sealed tank , I took a chance and hooked it up to the motor . Guess what , that motor ran just fine on that antiquated premixed fuel . (edited)

But , isn't that exactly how life is suppose to be ? ;)

The less ethanol, the better for small engines. Don't know about now, but Stihl used to void warranties on people buying the cheap,ethanol gas. They tested it when the customer brought in the problem engine.

That was before the stupid gov't made it almost impossible to get gas without ethanol. The customer had a choice then, so Stihl punished them for it.

Now you all can SAY that ethanol doesn't hurt, but Stihl had scientific reasons for taking its use so seriously.

They just got tired of seeing the damage ethanol was doing to their carbs and engine parts.

A company like Stihl values THEIR reputation. It has been a good one for the most part. People pay more to get Stihl quality.

Yet are made in China now hmm