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Wide open throttle and 'smell and fuel left over' says it's too rich .

Choke functioning correctly ?

Which jet size(s) ?

Air filter or no ?

The fuel is fresh and mixed 40:1.

And honestly, i dont know anything about the points and the electrical system on it, its on my “when it needs fixed I’m going to have to learn” list of things. So I wouldn’t know where to start there

lotta times the tiny woodruff key that holds the magneto placed gets sheared throwing off timing. and the rest of tuning, and when it shears its a pita to remove.

Give this guy a try he got my garelli running after sitting for 10 year's. CT ped shed in Meriden CT 203-415-3621

Guess I’m about to jump into learning about timing and ignition. Have the correct size jet in the carb and I’ve still got nothing. Just seems weird that it ran without a carb when i bought it, but it doesnt seem to like having a carb.

Going to take a look at it tonight, does anyone have any tips on how to measure the gap? Read the service manual and I doubt i can eyeball .014 or whatever mm

Well borrowed a feeler gauge from the shop at work, set the points to spec, and I was able to get it to idle for a brief second, then it died under throttle.

So now I’ve:

Put the proper jet in and tried other sizes

New spark plug that’s gapped correctly

Replaced the clutch setup

New fresh fuel

Set the points to spec

And nothing. It’s funny, the closer I get it to back to what the factory service manual says, the farther from running I seem to get.

I originally was going to get it running then go for a bigger cylinder, new head and other stuff to get some speed out of it. Now I’m wondering if it’s worth trying to get it running first or just saying screw it and throwing all of the parts at it then figuring it out from there.

Two cycle engine that should idle & will not idle can have issue with air leak due to the crankcase seals or with cylinder base gasket.

I would replace the crank seal behind the stator plate (17mm x 30mm x 5mm) where any seal width between 5mm and 7mm can be used .

Garelli NOI Seal specs (edited)

Thanks for all the tips guys. Ended up getting it started yesterday, and was able to start it with 1 or 2 kicks every time i tried. So knock on wood, i think i got it sorted.

As for what was wrong - best way to describe it is that I’m a complete, and utter moron. Turns out, just because you can hear some gas sloshing around in the tank, it doesnt mean its actually flowing as well as it should. I didnt have a whole lot in there, and after spilling less and less fuel every time I tried a different jet, I figured I’m either getting really good at taking a carb apart, or there isn’t as much fuel in the bowl.

I’m guessing the moving it around my house or outside to get it started was enough motion to fill the bowl, but that was it. Probably why i could get it to run for a little bit the first time i started it, and then nothing. I filled the tank up (something i avoided because i wasted an entire tank when i found out my petcock was shot) and it fired right up. I will say, aside from my wobbly front wheel and brakes that need replaced it ran pretty damn good. Right up until the slide on my throttle seemed to stick and i cant really open her up.

So nothing wrong with the ped, just me.