the hf plastic rachets r not terrible, on the contrary way way better than than anything out there.
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You're obviously not a mechanic
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Ok, most of its been covered, but I'll throw in my bit.....
Cheap spanners will probably be fine.
Cheap sockets will probably be fine, but the ratchet needs to be good.
Cheap screwdrivers are a complete waste of money, buy the best you can afford. Cheapies will break, and damage fasteners.
(3 decades of experience with a huge variety of tools in different trades)
Good luck!
Adrian
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Can't comment enough about garage/estate sale finds, the old tools are so much better made, ( for the average guy tools) Snap-on is snap on but old ratchets, screw drivers were made with pride, not just to fill a quota. Pullers specific to your bike. If your bike is your sole transport, keep some wear items on hand, tubes, rim tape, brake shoes, that way you don't have to wait for an order, though Treats is fast, but if they are already there, all the better.
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> Moped Jay Wrote:
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> You're obviously not a mechanic
You don't have to be a mechanic to fix your own stuff. Hell you don't have to know anything if you're willing to get your hand dirty, pick up tools along the way and learn a little.
I didn't know a thing about cars, but always was interested, so when I started driving, I just started reading a lot and taking shit apart. It was and is fun. Same thing when it came to my motorcycle, and now my moped. Broke a lot of shit, did a lot of things wrong, ended up stranded because of it or spending more money than what it would have cost to have a professional do it, but I've learned a hell of a lot more from those experiences than anything else.
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I agree with Jon. I am not a mechanic - far from it - but as problems arise with your moped, you can read and take things apart, watch YouTube videos (very helpful), and you’ll be surprised on how your knowledge grows. I have a 78 Hobbit and am learning new things about it every day.
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That was pointed towards pat
Those plastic ratchets don't last a day when they're actually used so obviously not a mechanic
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NOTHING in a Ratchet should be plastic!
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As many 10mm wrenchs you can buy, metal hole punch, t-bar Allen wrench set, razor blades, money
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> Rocco Taco Wrote:
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> money
Yeah , that^ . You'll need lots of that . (edited)
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These
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And these
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> Moped Jay Wrote:
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> And these
Stop Jay . You're gonna make the OP think we were in the salvage business . LOL
Hmm , now that I think about it , we really are . (edited)
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I live in South Florida's corrosive environment I use those every day especially on old Japanese bikes with those stupid JIS Phillips screws
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I know corrosive environments all too well . We spent about 5 months on the coastal bend of Texas . Every untreated surface on my bikes went to rust and even some of the cheaper chrome is no more .
But yeah , good extraction tools are really a must when working on antiques like these bikes .
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Somer sort of impact driver. I like the Lisle units. If you shop around you should be able to find it for about $20.
A good spring tool makes life much easier. Buzzetti makes a nice for for a nice price. Ask Benji to order one for you.
Find out what pullers fit your bike, and get them. Save you from many headaches.
You really should get three of these, but at least get a 1/4" and a 3/8" torque wrenches. Yeah lots of moped people don't bother with these, but they are important. They are like $20 at Harbor Freight, and sure those aren't as nice as Snap-On, but they work. Store them with the spring tension off, and try to use them in the middle of their range, because they don't work so well at the extremes. Which is why you should get three of them.
Some sort of decent rotary tool. Dremel are the most famous but the Black and Decker is decent, and has more torque. Get a corded one. Yeah battery powered is seductive, but they fail, and then you are fucked.
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> Moped Jay Wrote:
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> Those HF plastic ratchets are terrible
>
> For ratchets go to yard sales or flea markets get old SK Snap on Mac
> Matco Proto Williams Thorsen(USA not Taiwan) the older the more
> indestructible they are
>
> HF seem to be impossible to break for some reason whereas cornwell
> sockets break pretty easily also HF wrenches are fine especially since
> they're from India now I have yet to find a way of breaking an India
> made wrench and those free with coupon screwdriver sets are better than
> Crapsman ones
>
> For cordless tools I like the old Makita 9.6v from the 80s and 90s cause
> they're usually free or wicked cheap and the batteries are cheap on eBay
>
> Old used Milwaukee electric impact wrenches are usually cheaper than a
> new HF one and a million times better I paid $20 for mine like 10 years
> ago
>
> Yes a mig welder and lathe are 2 things that once you have them you find
> it's impossible to live without same with an oxy acetylene torch set
>
> Almost all my tools are snap on SK Matco Mac Starrett etc all came from
> trash picking yard sales and thrift stores if there's a Re-Store new
> you go there I get some really nice stuff there cheap
You don't need to buy snap on or so mac tools. I hate guys that wear those stupid snap on swear shirts it's probably the only thing they could afford on the snapon website.
Go to lowes and buy some kobalt they are awesome, Fairly priced and have a life time warranty. At a yard-sales ul never find a complete set
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All my snap on SK Matco Mac Starrett tools I have put together cost me less than one kobalt ratchet costs new
That was my point
> Rocco Taco Wrote:
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> > Moped Jay Wrote:
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Those HF plastic ratchets are terrible
>
> >
>
> > For ratchets go to yard sales or flea markets get old SK Snap on Mac
>
> > Matco Proto Williams Thorsen(USA not Taiwan) the older the more
>
> > indestructible they are
>
> >
>
> > HF seem to be impossible to break for some reason whereas cornwell
>
> > sockets break pretty easily also HF wrenches are fine especially
> since
>
> > they're from India now I have yet to find a way of breaking an India
>
> > made wrench and those free with coupon screwdriver sets are better
> than
>
> > Crapsman ones
>
> >
>
> > For cordless tools I like the old Makita 9.6v from the 80s and 90s
> cause
>
> > they're usually free or wicked cheap and the batteries are cheap on
> eBay
>
> >
>
> > Old used Milwaukee electric impact wrenches are usually cheaper than a
>
> > new HF one and a million times better I paid $20 for mine like 10
> years
>
> > ago
>
> >
>
> > Yes a mig welder and lathe are 2 things that once you have them you
> find
>
> > it's impossible to live without same with an oxy acetylene torch set
>
> >
>
> > Almost all my tools are snap on SK Matco Mac Starrett etc all came
> from
>
> > trash picking yard sales and thrift stores if there's a Re-Store new
>
> > you go there I get some really nice stuff there cheap
>
> You don't need to buy snap on or so mac tools. I hate guys that wear
> those stupid snap on swear shirts it's probably the only thing they
> could afford on the snapon website.
>
> Go to lowes and buy some kobalt they are awesome, Fairly priced and have
> a life time warranty. At a yard-sales ul never find a complete set
>
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I've never had to use a spring tool on a moped, but I have had to use it on a Vespa scooter kickstand spring. I never encountered a kickstand spring like that before.
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> Moped Lar (OFMC) Wrote:
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> I've never had to use a spring tool on a moped, but I have had to use it
> on a Vespa scooter kickstand spring. I never encountered a kickstand
> spring like that before.
Maybe next time , attach the spring and then place the stand for bolting .
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I just carry multi-tool everywhere (leatherman) always comes in handy, even if you're not riding a ped, useful for taking apart thrown out stuff that's lying around for spare parts etc.
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> Simon Belmont Wrote:
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> I just carry multi-tool everywhere (leatherman) always comes in handy,
> even if you're not riding a ped, useful for taking apart thrown out
> stuff that's lying around for spare parts etc.
I have one . Very good quality .
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No it's because Italians think you need a 500lb spring an inch too short or the stand won't stay up
> P D Wrote:
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> > Moped Lar (OFMC) Wrote:
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------
>
> > I've never had to use a spring tool on a moped, but I have had to use
> it
>
> > on a Vespa scooter kickstand spring. I never encountered a kickstand
>
> > spring like that before.
>
> Maybe next time , attach the spring and then place the stand for bolting
> .
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Try it , you might like it .
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Don't need to cause the center stand is the first thing I cut off cause I hate things sticking down underneath that gets caught on stuff in the woods
> P D Wrote:
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> Try it , you might like it .
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> Moped Lar (OFMC) Wrote:
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> I've never had to use a spring tool on a moped, but I have had to use it
> on a Vespa scooter kickstand spring. I never encountered a kickstand
> spring like that before.
Like most any tool you can probably find another way to achieve the same results. The purpose of a tool is to make it easier, and hopefully cause less damage to the subject. The spring tool makes it a lot easier to install springs, and you don't have worry about it sliding off the screwdriver, or slipping out of the pliers. And if you are putting springs on by hand they probably need to be replaced. ;)
Additional at a few dollars it's not a tool that's going to break the bank, or bleed the wallet. Actually none of the tools I listed are expensive, and they all make your wrenching life better.
I can't even believe I'm having to defend the spring tool. Most folks I've show one of these to say something like "that's so cool I need one of those." But what the fuck can you expect on MA. Nearly as bad as teh barf. (edited)
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pretty much everything listed before my post and a electrical crimp kit, dremel tool, drill, micrometer (to measure replacement parts), voltmeter, a couple spare parts (gaskets, wires, spark plugs etc.) and a bicycle multitool.
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> Rob Rob Wrote:
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> > Moped Lar (OFMC) Wrote:
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------
>
> > I've never had to use a spring tool on a moped, but I have had to use
> it
>
> > on a Vespa scooter kickstand spring. I never encountered a kickstand
>
> > spring like that before.
>
> Like most any tool you can probably find another way to achieve the same
> results. The purpose of a tool is to make it easier, and hopefully cause
> less damage to the subject. The spring tool makes it a lot easier to
> install springs, and you don't have worry about it sliding off the
> screwdriver, or slipping out of the pliers. And if you are putting
> springs on by hand they probably need to be replaced. ;)
>
> Additional at a few dollars it's not a tool that's going to break the
> bank, or bleed the wallet. Actually none of the tools I listed are
> expensive, and they all make your wrenching life better.
>
> I can't even believe I'm having to defend the spring tool. Most folks
> I've show one of these to say something like "that's so cool I need one
> of those." But what the fuck can you expect on MA. Nearly as bad as teh
> barf.
Hey , this is just mopeds . LOL
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> P D Wrote:
> Hey , this is just mopeds . LOL
True, but does it always have to be such a shit fest?
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> Rob Rob Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > Moped Lar (OFMC) Wrote:
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------
>
> > I've never had to use a spring tool on a moped, but I have had to use
> it
>
> > on a Vespa scooter kickstand spring. I never encountered a kickstand
>
> > spring like that before.
>
> Like most any tool you can probably find another way to achieve the same
> results. The purpose of a tool is to make it easier, and hopefully cause
> less damage to the subject. The spring tool makes it a lot easier to
> install springs, and you don't have worry about it sliding off the
> screwdriver, or slipping out of the pliers. And if you are putting
> springs on by hand they probably need to be replaced. ;)
>
> Additional at a few dollars it's not a tool that's going to break the
> bank, or bleed the wallet. Actually none of the tools I listed are
> expensive, and they all make your wrenching life better.
>
> I can't even believe I'm having to defend the spring tool. Most folks
> I've show one of these to say something like "that's so cool I need one
> of those." But what the fuck can you expect on MA. Nearly as bad as teh
> barf.
Just use a zip tie
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