MOPED ARMY

Before you fuck with lining up the marks you need to throw the rotor on (doesn't matter how it's timed just tighten it on), remove the plug and rest it on the head and spin the crank with a drill and use your timing light. Half the time it fires way off from the line on the stator, so you will end up lining it up with a line YOU make on the stator, feel me?

Hmmm......so i just pay attention to where it fires, mark a line, and set my timing relative to that? (set TDC, push piston BTDC by 2mm, then install flywheel ON that mark?)

The setup will have two marks for direction of rotation. Anything that shows one mark for both will be wrong. You could time the engine using any position you want if you make your own reference mark, but why?

That sucks. I've had nothing but good luck on my Tomos and Morini HPI minis -- the Morini one actually fired on the mark! Lol. Too bad those others don't make the ignitions for Minarelli or Morini.

Going to disagree with this because the timing and firing marks aren't the only problem. the coating on the coil wires melts if you have an ignition cover on. seen it happen numerous times on mopeds and dirt bikes (even on the "new" batches that are allegedly fixed). The quality the stators is really bad, there's nothing keeping the wires on the coils except solder. I also wouldn't say they have a good rate of reliability given the whats available for the price point. Everyone on this site knows multiple people who've burned up hpi coils or had a box fail.

meh, Takegawa puts their name on selettra ignitions which says a lot to me about the quality.

https://japan.webike.net/products/1503346.html

As you might be able to tell, I'm pretty passionate in my hatred for HPIs. I probably wouldn't be if they weren't 200-something dollars, people didn't talk about them like they're sacrosanct. (edited)

yep wait for the timing light before you even try. IMO they're decent and if you order directly from HPI they're a tad cheaper. I've had to rewind a light coil before, had one of the CDI boxes burn out and almost burn a hole in my piston and i've had the glue melt off sooooooo yeah, not the best but nowhere NEAR the terrible quality of the treats cdi's.

i've personally never ran a flywheel cover with a HPI but I have used them on a variety of bikes: derbi piston port, derbi flat reed, derbi 4V, morini m1, morini m101, minarelli v1, and puch e50. I've seen many people start to cut cooling holes in the forward direction of their covers --- do I know if they work? not sure, but I can guess they do provide an ample amount of cooling while riding.

ok, back to mardi gras.

Thats great! Thanks guys.

good to know, i guess i haven't heard of it that often, but who knows. i don't buy fancy pants ignitions period i use oem junk and graft on scooter parts because i'm a cheapass and i like big heavy flywheels and am radio and going 50 in the fast lane with my left turn signal on, what with bein' a old man and all.