Starting your ped in below 20f weather

Simon Belmont /

The weather in NY has dropped below 20F, starting Tomos when it's been outside the whole day now takes 2 sometimes 3 kicks even with the choke on, when the engine starts, I usually wait for about a minute and as soon as Tomos can move forward on its own, hop on and ride, but was wondering if its safe for the clutches to do this or is it better to wait a few more minutes for it to fully warm up before riding?

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

As far as I know , the only way to warm a transmission is to work it , other than letting it warm via heat transfer from the cylinder , which would likely take a long time .

I suppose you might use an oil warming dipstick , but that seems a bit extreme for only 20°F .

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

Brandon Weiss (aka B-Man) /

Assuming you are using ATF, its already pretty thin.....i wouldnt worry about the cold thickening it too much.

The only way you can conceivably damage your clutch pads is by running them without oil. Your clutch shouldnt be engaged at idle, and by the time you get it started and try to ride it, oil will surely have flowed into the clutch bell.

And, the fact that you have to kick it over a few times ensures that oil circulates inside the transmission before you even start the engine.

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

My truck shifts smoother in this 20F weather. I would let it warm up for a minute just so the transmission fluid can get moving, but its probably unnecessary if you're running type A/F fluid.

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

Simon Belmont /

Thanks guys!

P.S. Just noticed something cool, if I keep throttle closed when starting with choke on it actually starts on 1st kick in this weather.

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

> Full Tuck Wrote:

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> My truck shifts smoother in this 20F weather. I would let it warm up

> for a minute just so the transmission fluid can get moving, but its

> probably unnecessary if you're running type A/F fluid.

Not to jack this thread , but ...

Maybe you should consider using a good HD synthetic tranny fluid . I believe it's a bit thicker than standard ATF and helps cushion things a little . My nephew had a Dodge pickup that was getting a little sloppy at the shifts , until he made the switch . Then none but smiles .

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

Brandon Weiss (aka B-Man) /

> Simon Belmont Wrote:

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> Thanks guys!

>

> P.S. Just noticed something cool, if I keep throttle closed when

> starting with choke on it actually starts on 1st kick in this weather.

Thats because you arent really supposed to open the throttle when you choke it. The whole idea of the choke is to bring more fuel into the fuel/air mix, by opening the throttle slide you let in more air, and are essentially cancelling out the effect the choke has. (specifically on the tomos with the PHVA, as opposed to the choke on an SHA)

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

Previous post is spot on. Read tuning manual for yer carb.

My 2005 auto ranger probably just needs new tranny fluid

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

Captain Janeway /

You and your ped stay inside. Minus 20? You couldn't pay me to go out in that! Then again, I'm a weenie Californian and hate it if it's under 40 ;)

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

> Full Tuck Wrote:

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> Previous post is spot on. Read tuning manual for yer carb.

>

> My 2005 auto ranger probably just needs new tranny fluid

OK . Just thought I'd toss it out there . Hopefully that's all it needs .

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

You can use a work light under the motor to get things warmed up a bit

(incandescent 100w bulb or a 500w Halogen will do it - forget about LED though)

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

Dirty30 Dillon /

Not -20*, just 20*

Either way, I am not riding until we're back into the 30's at least

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

Jack Rutherford /

I just got back from California and it is 15f in Ohio. Can't wait to start something up and ride. I think I would worry more about warming your engine up than your transmission. Maybe give it five or more minutes before riding.

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

Dirty30 Dillon /

> Dirty30 Dillon Wrote:

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> Not -20*, just 20*

>

> Either way, I am not riding until we're back into the 30's at least

Ok, I lied.

I rode around yesterday through the BOMB CYCLONE and it was great

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

> Dirty30 Dillon Wrote:

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> > Dirty30 Dillon Wrote:

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> > Not -20*, just 20*

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> >

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> > Either way, I am not riding until we're back into the 30's at least

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> Ok, I lied.

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> I rode around yesterday through the BOMB CYCLONE and it was great

Sign of a true addict . LOL

Re: Starting your ped in below 20f weather

> Captain Janeway Wrote:

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> You and your ped stay inside. Minus 20? You couldn't pay me to go out in

> that! Then again, I'm a weenie Californian and hate it if it's under 40

> ;)

haha, im from cali too, was mad my sandles got wet from the fog, hate that.

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