MOPED ARMY

lifan? success ? no way

I dunno, i got it sortof to help a friend out, couldnt get it running and wanted it gone, got it cheap

i'd worked on it before and the engine was always pretty good, so i was thinking to myself, foolishly, maybe lifans arent all shit, maybe one in a few gets lucky or works decent.

false.

but it makes me wonder, of all those people who put "reliable & fast" lifans on their mopeds, if any of them are still functioning.

there's a dude who rides the suches true grits ride every year with a lifan'd cub that always seems to make it. but i think that's all the riding it ever sees.

The real WillD Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

^this. gotta wonder. there's at least like 3-4 lifan'd bikes on the forums right?

That Tomos that was at inverness, that G3 top tank street fighter thing and then that rushin russian guy or whatever and the red lacey tanked magnum (although I thought I read that it was un-lifan'd)

Someone should go hunt him down and bug him to post. (edited)

it was on youtube that i saw it, not a blog:

FUCK YOU BERGS!!1!!! NOW I LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT!!!! GAAAHHHHHHH (edited)

I think the common denominator is YOU WILLD!!! Your a Lifan Killer!!!

Rofl, the stupidest part is they are NOT that cheap.

Also, there are sellers who sell 'Good Lifans' not just the 'cheapest lifan you can get'

There is certain brand names of these china motors to get...

In either case, rebuild the stock block if possible, 60 million of them.

Not that you'd care but I got 16000 miles out of my lifan 200 (untill the bike fell apart) and I've got a shade over 3000 out of my lifan 125 Enduroped and its still going. No parts replaced on either.

The lifan motors aren't that bad... It's XYZ, Jetmoto, no name super cheap pitbike engines that seem to blow ass.

I bought one off a kid that put a 110cc lifan on a tomos, I broke something in the gearbox the first month I had it, so 100miles? Yeah they suck.

what do you want for the Cub?

looks like a good conversion job

a lifan "success" story wont get to page 2 unless the trolls chime in

Wow that thread on ADV is pretty encouraging, maybe theres hope for some of em?

As an aside only one of mine was lifan branded. It bent the shift shaft & shift star very early on and then the transmission cover would never seal right again, many different gaskets and sealers, but always leaked.

The only bike I've seriously considered it for was an Indian. Just because it seemed like keeping 4-stroke on it seemed appropriate.

Carlos Spicy Wiener Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

well, this is what you were asking for!

plus the distinction between lifan and generic shit brand is very very important, the genuine lifan stuff seems to be miles ahead of the other generics, Lifan is the company that honda originally set up in china with the partnership.

every single one i've worked on has broken due to a combination of low quality manufacturing and operator error. the kickstarter is a common one, if you engage the mechanism before you jump on the thing it will last forever, but if you don't you'll smash it. Sure, the honda is going to take a lot more abuse, but it doesn't mean the lifan is automatically shit because you can't jump on it as hard as a honda. Hell, do that to any big thumper and you're gonna break it eventually.

I've seen the bent shift shaft/star/pawl thing too, it comes from shifting it before the auto clutch fully releases or stomping it into gear under power. The china motors are much stiffer shifting, they dont move as freely, so thats gonna happen, but if you ride it like an old man and gently put pressure on the shifter until it releases and slips into gear, it can last thousands of miles.

I see the valves get burned from idiots hacking off the exhaust and running lean, the top ends, cams, bearings go from folks overheating them or running them low on oil, they aren't balanced as well so they tend to shake screws out, and the screws are shitty so they strip before you can get them tight, but a dab here and there of good loctite goes a long way.

proper break-in probably is huge too, because they have coarse machining and crappy rings, etc.

just like harbor freight tools, or anything else, if you don't beat it like you're trying to break it, it will probably last a long time.