Jan, what kind of fool are you? You go around the forum making an idiot of your self, so before you embarass yourself any more, why don't you get your facts straight. By definition a moped is a vehicle with no more than 3 wheels, engine capacity < 50cc, automatic transmition, and no more than 1.5 brake H.P. There for those "real mopeds" you are talking about are motorcycles on account of their standard transmitions, and more then 1.5 horses. Hope I set the record strait.