Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?

Aaron Miller /
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Yes, o-ring first then the plastic shim. I have seen them without the o-ring. But I can almost assure you they seal better with one of those. Although after I looked it up, it seems there is a type 1 and type 2 shim. type 2 looks shorter to accommodate the ring. probably not too big an issue though. The big thing is to make sure that the carb is pushed on all the way. I usually work a screwdriver between the carb and the subframe to kind of gently pry it on. It also helps a bit to move the motor forward, though it isn't necessary. Plus that requires you to slack the exhaust and remove the belt.

If you remove the head, it will tell you if it is leaking. There will be burnt oil/gas creeping out, visible on either the head, the gasket, or the base, or a combination. Most likely on the area supported by only one stud.

If your leak is pre-combustion, you can do a plug read to find out. But you have to do a little research first. Here is a chart on how to read a plug, If you are uncertain how (Sorry, I really have no idea what skill level you are at). Now you have to find out what your bike is jetted to. pop off the carb bowl and see what number your main jet is... Now, I am assuming you have a 65cc kit of some type, a del orto 13:13 carb, and a performance pipe of some sort. You should be jetted in the 65-70 neighborhood. Depending on the size of your expansion chamber. If you do a plug chop. (directions here) You should find that it reads lean, even though you are jetted properly. This is because your leak is bringing more air (or inconsistent amounts of air) to your fixed ratio of gas/air.

I hope this helps you. I love kinetics. I wish more people would realize their hidden beauty. Keep this one alive man!

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  cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Topic by: preeesh . preeesh . 05/30/12 03:58PM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Don Sumpter (OFMC) Don Sumpter (OFMC) 05/30/12 04:08PM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: mit mortso mit mortso 06/02/12 12:25AM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Downhill Harvey (OFMC) Downhill Harvey (OFMC) 06/02/12 02:02AM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Downhill Harvey (OFMC) Downhill Harvey (OFMC) 06/02/12 07:15AM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Leo Heyman Leo Heyman 06/03/12 12:53PM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: preeesh . preeesh . 06/05/12 09:50AM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Woot Senpai Woot Senpai 06/05/12 10:34AM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: preeesh . preeesh . 06/05/12 02:51PM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Bryan Butler Bryan Butler 06/09/12 01:26PM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Adam Blickhahn Adam Blickhahn 06/10/12 01:13AM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: preeesh . preeesh . 06/10/12 07:44PM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Adam Blickhahn Adam Blickhahn 06/10/12 09:17PM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Aaron Miller Aaron Miller 06/11/12 02:13AM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Aaron Miller Aaron Miller 06/11/12 02:22PM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Graham Motzing Graham Motzing 06/11/12 03:33PM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Aaron Miller Aaron Miller 06/11/12 11:15PM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Patrick Keaton Patrick Keaton 06/11/12 11:31PM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Aaron Miller Aaron Miller 06/11/12 11:52PM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: preeesh . preeesh . 06/14/12 09:26AM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Aaron Miller Aaron Miller 06/14/12 01:33PM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Aaron Miller Aaron Miller 06/15/12 01:16AM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: preeesh . preeesh . 06/18/12 10:13AM
  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Aaron Miller Aaron Miller 06/18/12 12:16PM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Jax Rhapsody Jax Rhapsody 07/07/12 09:16PM
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  Re: cheap Kinetic project, bad idea?Re: Maciek Dub Maciek Dub 07/24/12 07:03PM
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