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Since you mention target, Target stores sold these online a few years back! Its not the highest quality bike, but they are affordable and mostly based on tried and true piaggio designs. Most of the problems I've heard about them have to due with the sub-frame. I bet it'll be fine if you dont abuse it though.

I got you beat by nine bucks, Harv. $45. Running.

Nothing is a Honda is right, I never understood why they have foot pegs and pedals, that is inviting a wreck. The one in the pic looks pretty nice.

I got ya BOTH beat. I paid $25 bucks for my '99 TFR, and it ran.

I know people don't like em, but put a little time and such into it and it's a pretty good daily. So long as you aren't trying to go 60 on it...the subframe is pretty shitty and'll bend on ya. I can bend it with my bare hands with ease. The frame itself seems solid, and the electrics are pretty ace...i've since stopped using the actual bike, but the CDI and crap are staying on my bike as long as they live, lol. LED's work great with it, also.

Check the taillight bulb, I think they may be wired the same as the Vespa's where if the bulb is out it wont spark.

had one for a first ped. did 45ish on it, mild kit, pipe 13.13 carb. sub frame did brake. comfortable ride, ugly as sin reminds me of an easy lay. clean the carb well

i concur mine lasted about a summer of riding

if i get another one i'm gonna re-enforce it before the kit goes on. i rode mine pretty hard for like 6 months and im like 220. it seemed fine. but that was at 34 or less.

no cheap project bike is a bad idea

i had a kinetic magnum a few years ago i got it for free from a guy that couldnt figure out how to get it started so he gave it to me saying it will never run

i just threw it in the truck when i got it homw i noticed he had it on pedal mode i flipped the switch and it started rught up it was a pretty good bike variated had a funny looking expansion pipe a huge long seat and went like 35 very reliable i rode it for like a month then some dude offered me $400 for it sold it right there and walked home

harvey them bravo subframes are not really much better than the kinetic ones they are all crappy thin stamped sheet metal but they seem to hold up to normal riding unlike what i do

i made a new subframe for my grande outta 1/8'' plate steel cause i kept breaking the stock ones

neither one is strong one may be thicker than the other but they are both crap

you can say what you want but i have owned plenty of vespas i know they break easy

Talked him down to $80. Not sure what year it is, but it has ~960miles on the clock. He's been working on it for a while, and was using treats to source the parts. He said it was running, but wouldn't idle. Was chasing air leaks and he silicon on some parts.. He put a new 65cc kit, carb, clutch, electronics, exhaust, plug and wire. quite a bit of new work so i was ok with 80. He was chasing air leaks before he gave up.

Pulled the covers off and hooked up an auxiliary tank. Tried to kick it over but wasn't getting any go. It has spark and fuel. He didn't know what kind of carb he put on it, i'm guessing the jetting is way off and timing could use some attention. (edited)

Got a second to look at it. Looking over the wiring stumbled onto this unit not attached to anything. Looking at the only wiring diagram i can find. the yellow/black wires connect the headlight low/high to a combination switch. I'm terrible with electronics, I'm guessing this should be grounded to the frame/engine?

Next step is to figure out what all parts are installed to have a solid point to start trouble shooting. I have narrowed a few things down, but am still unsure on a couple.

Things I know;

-Carb is definitely a dellorto. thinking its a 13 sha

-has this coil, but is installed with zip ties.. photo

-the exhaust is similar to the polini country pipe(its in the first photo, in the background on left)

-filter is not stock. looks similar to this one, but has black filter element

Still unsure about;

-Brand of kit, also I've realized i have no clue what 10/12 pin means haha..

-Proper coil mounting and location

Sounds good, preciate the schooling on pin #'s

I'm more worried about the timing of the spark. I can only assume that shitty grounds/mounting of electrical components will cause shitty performance. I have a cheapo timing light on the way to double check how its running.

Also the part that is not mounted to anything can't be correct(i'll get a better photo later);

He was suspecting air leaks before giving up on it. I'll chase that down once i actually get her running. Will be getting new plug, fresh gas, and give it another try soon

i'm pretty sure that what you have there is either the regulator or the cdi box.

white/red wire coming from coils to box = cdi unit.

2 yellows and a black wire connecting to lights and junk from the box = voltage regulator

Both of which i just drilled holes anywhere they'd fit in the sub frame and slapped em on there, no problem.I think the only grounding that occurs is that one black wire you bolt to the subframe (mines has always been mounted near the coil,) and my wiring diagram shows that all the grounds on the bike are wired to that.

And for the record, the lights and ignition are totally separate on Kinetics. you can take all the lights off completely and the bike'll still run, you just need the wires on the right side of the bike for spark.