50/60 club? (50cc/60mph)

I'm not a member of this club, but it sure would be cool. If you achieved this, please list your setup...I bet most of the folks who did it were sporting the high revvin av10 kits? Any Puchs do it?

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when it comes to 60mph on a 50cc, its not the parts, its the setting up, polishing, tuning, porting, cleaning, fabricating......i dont think anybodys 50cc setup is an instant 60mph out of the box...

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I'm sure....got up to low 50s on a 50.... Dreaming of 60.

Maybe a giant fairing and some go fast porting...

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with a water-cooled french setup 60 is certainly well within reach if you know what youre doing...high revs + variator+ low temps = high speeds and wheelies

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AC with a fan baby...keep dropping those roller weights....and YOUR weight loss helps A TON!!!

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I only eat bagels, is that bad? I'm developing a gunt.

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Overpriced Parts /

mb5 with a pipe

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those yummy sammys don't help the waistline....try stress and poverty for a while and you will waste away.....like ME!!!!

3 sodas a day and maybe a doughnut is how i roll!!! Something's gonna kill ya. (edited)

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I know how you lose weight....shake and bake, baby!!!!! Ha

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variator or multiple gears

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Sachs 50s = 60+ on 50cc straight out of the box

Sachs 50s.JPG

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I am almost dam sure that there is a 50/55 v1's, maybe I get him to let me do video.

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ghess I'll have too make do with my 505-1-d then ,oh well !

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there are people in the 50/140 club. but a small motorcycle isnt a moped.

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this looks like a water-cooled Peugeot engine.

maybe?

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Its an engine from an aprilia rs50.

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still auto-clutch though correct?

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I want to see a 1 speed (e50) 50cc that goes 60 mph

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didnt shaw build a tomos with a stock cylinder that went 65?

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tyler im pretty sure that engine is a 6 speed manual.

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figures. FAIL

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i dont see any reason why similar speeds couldnt be achieved with a very carefully thought-out CEV transmission though,if not more.

imagine a gigantic dual variator setup on that engine. probably could go a billion. doesnt need to be practical, theyre at the salt flats.

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I'm hoping my new peugeot setup will get close. With 192* exhaust port and 32* blowdown it should be a screamer. Here's what the wiki says about this port timing:

Exhaust: 188-198:Very limited use. Almost no torque with a narrow high high RPM power band at Pro use racing high revs.

blowdown: Blowdown of 32+: Way too high for any 1 speed or 2 speed automatic. This is only ride able at the race track on the very very best tuned variomatic shifter engine.

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⊙△⊙ Ⓜⓔⓐⓝ Ⓝⓐⓢⓗ ⊙△⊙ Wrote:

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> tyler im pretty sure that engine is a 6 speed

> manual.

Yes the AM6 engine is a 6 speed.

Re: 50/60 club? (50cc/60mph)

the peugeot setup is probably closest we will see. variators are rad, they pretty much allow you to run a setup with NO low end, but still rape off the line. you gonna have a clutch or a launch lever jake? how many rpms you gonna be spinnin?

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Tracy Meade /

65 has definitely been done on at least a few french bikes.

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Tracy Meade /

And yes. *sigh* there is an old shaw bike that does 60-65 all day on a stock Tomos a35 cylinder.

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Plan for now is clutch with lightened variator and launch lever. Hoping for around 12+K RPM with the doppler pipe.

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you're gonna need like 1mm rings for 12k

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Matt Mahloch -- MBM Customs /

Jake P Wrote:

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> I'm hoping my new peugeot setup will get close.

> With 192* exhaust port and 32* blowdown it should

> be a screamer. Here's what the wiki says about

> this port timing:

>

> Exhaust: 188-198:Very limited use. Almost no

> torque with a narrow high high RPM power band at

> Pro use racing high revs.

>

> blowdown: Blowdown of 32+: Way too high for any 1

> speed or 2 speed automatic. This is only ride able

> at the race track on the very very best tuned

> variomatic shifter engine.

That wiki thing is silly. My 70+ mph gila has 32 degrees blowdown and is great on the street. Maybe not recommended, but fine. Your variated bike should be killer at that.

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