MOPED ARMY

Mike,I like the Supersport at a distance.I haven't been close to one yet.Do you mean they couldn't be comfortable `cause they're designed not to fit a human's shape or what?The only thing I've seen on them that I would change is the 16" tires.Even my Sebrings have 17" tires and I think that's a bigger bike than my Sebring or any TOMOS.The little 16" tires look funny on it to me.Why are you saying German styling when it's made in India,I think.And scooters? The ugliest moped is prettier than a fancy scooter anyday.They look like snails to me,with that bulging rear.THAT'LL get somebody cookin' at me! I do agree with you on the new Puchs and some Derbis,though.They look like moped-scooter hybrids.Prejudiced for mopeds and PROUD OF IT !!!!

I am a scooter lover, and theres not a moped that can compare with a scoot, oh hell where do I begin? under seat storage perhaps, holds a gallon of water and a 2 litre diet coke, plus,,,, 32 mph stock,68 mpg , no chain noise, no premix like those dinosaur mopeds, electric start, disc brakes, shall I go on.......the NEW SCOOTER ARMY rules!!!!!!!!!!of course I would like to get my 1980 Puch going any body got a cylinder for it??

Okay,Rog! I started it and now I'm gonna finish it! LOL! I can extend my telescoping Motomarina Sebring's rear carrier and put TWO,count `em,TWO, FULL backpacks on them so I don't need your underseat storage.I ALSO strap a 10# toolbag to the handlebars with no problem and strap my umbrella in a `snakelight bag' to the side of the rear carrier and there's room for more.I can cruise an easy 32 mph(except for hills) and I don't hear ANY chain vibration since I never overtighten it or leave it loose.I get 125 mpg! Anything I missed?The `MOPEDARMY will make mincemeat out of your new Taliban-scooter army.Snails are easy to catch and kill.OH! And fuel injection and electric starting is for W.I.M.PS! WUSSES IN MEN'S PANTS!(wish I had electric start).You wanna keep up with us you better get your Puch goin'.

I'm not sure what kind of scooters you all are refering to, but the new Vespa et4 (which, I will admit is not as cool as a vintage Vespa, but is pretty damn cool nonetheless) has room to store a full face helmet under the seat, out of sight. Then you've got the glove box on the rear of the leg shield which will hold 3 pepsi big slams, and then some. If that isn't enough, you can opt for the top case, which mounts behind the seat and will hold another 4 big slams with room to spare. And I know what you are about to say, a moped can haul twice that amount of stuff. But it is all out in the open, where it could come loose and fall to the road at any time. With the Vespa all your loot is stored safely away in a closed, locked compartment, where you don't have to worry about loosing it on a bump or someone stealing your shit while you run into the store for a pack of gum.

And that's just the storage issue. Dont get me started on how ugly a moped is compared to a vintage Vespa.

Blah, blah, blah. We've done the "Scooters vs. Moped" thing a bazillion times. We always arrive at the same determination:

Scooters and Mopeds each have their benefits and drawbacks. They are different machines. You might as well compare apples to oranges.

I have to wonder if mike was "trolling for posts" with his original post on this issue. Any of the regulars know that the "Scoot vs. Ped" thing is like whipping a dead horse.

I'm sure there are many people in this forum who own BOTH a moped and a scooter. Why don't they get rid of one or the other?? Because each one is 'better' in its own way.

Mopeds vs Scooters debate aside, how do you feel about the storage issue? Do you still mistakenly think you can haul more stuff on a ped than a scooter?

Oh come on, its all in good fun!! I know neither of us is going to get upset and cry because someone else has a different idea about what is cool and what is not...

But anyways, tell me what moped you have in mind that can store a full face helmet out of sight. Because I can't think of any. (And just to be PC, only the new Vespa models have this kind of storage space, none of the vintage even come close).

I think you just admitted defeat, my friend. It is not your moped that stores your helmet, but your backpack. Anybody can throw a backpack on. And I know what you mean, those hardshell cases are too expensive, and not very tough (my friends broke clean in half when the ped fell to the curb). I live in a small city, more of a town, where I don't have to worry too much about people stealing my shit off the ped when it is parked. I lock it up, but usually my helmet and backpack just sit on the handlebars, and so far I've had good luck. But if its going to be parked for more than an hour, I usually don't chance it. And I think wherever you live, it is a good idea to keep it locked up in a shed or house overnight.

And yes, I am quite the Vespa man. Mopeds rule, but scooters dominate.

I have a honda elite-s with a 102cc stroker bore kit & is registered as a moped, so needless to say i can whip all of your candy asses.

you ought to go and join the Skeeks. They also have poor taste and lousy scooters.

For me the moped is all about this phrase from the moped army mission statement:

"the ability to enjoy the trip - as well as the destination."

there's more to life than speed.

simon

honda elites suck. i saw a race between an 80cc elite and a 50cc kymco cobra that i had just tuned up to about 55/ 60mph. the honda was fast, but the cobra was even faster and it was less expensive. once they got to 40mph they were neck to neck and then POW the cobra kicked in a little more and went about 50 feet ahead of the elite and at the stop light the honda owner looked at the cobra and said SHIT my scooter sux. and for all these fights over which are better moped or scooter i must say mopeds are better because the are much less expensive and get better gas milage then the scooter's sure the scooters have many little goodies but mopeds are classic and they are actual mopeds. i have 4 mopeds and love them all a motomarina sebring custom exaust and bigger carb which can get up to 45 mph and a puch free spirit with a 70cc kit which goes about 60mph and a casal which i fixed today and goes about 40mph. i also have a honda hobbit that is pretty trashed and doesn't work. it did but it was wimpy so i started takeing parts off to put on my other ones. now you could but a scooter or a moped and if you got the moped instead you could bump it up to 70cc before it got close to the cost of a friggin scooter

BaHaHaHahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!!!

That was hilarious ...hahahaha!

Nyah,Nyah!Let's be mature now!

cracked me up

Okay:

Here's my two cents. I've got both a ped and a scoot, well actually three,a motorcycle too: the ped - 78 PUCH w/70cc kit, it a pleasure to ride, but then so is my 2000 DERBI Atlantis w/a proformance exhaust. Both cruze around town ez. Being an "old guy" I get a lot of laughs and waves riding them around. I even take them on extended rides out to " NOVA The Hunt Country" via back roads. I luv to park them w/the Harley's.

However, I recently made a giant plung in magnitude, I purchased a restored purple pearl & chrome '71 750cc Honda Chopper. (A Bad to the Bone and Vicious Bike). What a hoot, either in town or on an extended ride (to the beach or mountains).

Which is best? They are all good! I admit, the worst motorcycle I ever owned was still pretty good (a BSA 250 w/a "Prince of Darkness" Electrical System (aka Lucus). Life is too short, don't sell them, just aquire more peds, scoots, & motors and LIVE TO RIDE, LAUGHING ALL THE WAY. Maybe next year I can aquire a WHIZZER.

Rich

Moped wins, hands-down.

1986 Tomos Bullet with an Aftermarket Trike modification, and cast-metal rearframe with switchable cargopod or basket.

Pulled me, plus 285lbs of cargo (including passenger), through light snow without significant degradation of performance Nov 24th 1994.

Was due to the car breaking down in the parking lot of the grocery store, and so we loaded the works, turkey, canned goods, everydamnthing into that basket with my cargo net slinging it all down for a three-mile haul.

The cargopod was lockable, although shorter on space than the basket.

I wonder if there are any scooter-trikes, just outta curiosity ?

-R