bloody pedals

tonight, i hopped on my moped, turned the key and started to pedal to get the engine running. i got through one rotation and the shaft connecting the pedals snapped. The f*cking thing snapped. it broke right near the left crank . what the hell am i supposed to do? i'm not sure if it's weldable. i guess i'll have to figure it out. oh well.

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get ya some pliers and a friend and you each pick a side and crank like hell LMAO

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See if you can use a drill, to crank it.

What kind of moped?

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Can you do a rolling start? I think Miguel and some others were posting about how you can do that. I can't remember the name of the thread... it's not too far back.

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most mopeds you can roll start them. just hold the handle bars ... and get a good running going (a few feet should do) then pull the clutch lever and you shoudl start right up.

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Ron Brown /

Hey guys, relax a bit with the advice here. If his pedal shaft broke in half, on most peds, this would mean his front sprocket and vee belt pulley are now free to float from side to side.

Not my idea of a fun ride. : )

Ron

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oops ... i thought he meant that the pedal came out of the pedal arm or that the pedal arm broke off.

yes, if the crankshaft is broken, that engine needs to be opened up.

get a minarelli manual. you'll need a few special tools. open up the engine and order that part to replace it. i don't think you should try to weld the part back on. if you weld it so that it doesn't move ... then well ... you figure it out.

good eye ron!

Nah... its a PA50... remove them and pushstart it

Its a belt drive Jap bike...it has no starter clutch.

collin... on my PA50 I removed the pedals... pedal shaft.. and pedal chain.

And now I pushstart it... stand on the left side... push in the decomp lever... take 3 or 4 quick steps... then hop on and release the decomp lever.. and off you go.

I suppose if you only weigh 100 pounds it might get difficult.

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Ron Brown /

Miguel,

I must be up too late. What is the minarelli manual going to tell him about his Honda? : )

Ron

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Ron Brown /

Yeah Fred!

btw, at 135 lbs I can bump start a Moto Guzzi V7, you just have to jump higher and time your landing. : )

Ron

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And a Guzzi V7 izzzzzz ? ... 750cc?

The bizarre thing is my PA50.. as wimpy as it is.. will lock the rear tire if I don't push the decomp lever... I was surprised there was that much resistance.

And if collin is small and unsure of what to do... it may not work too well.

Plus... I like not having the pedals hanging out... they caused a crash one time when one touched down.

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Ron Brown /

Fred,

A V7 is 700 cc of very agricultural machinery. I think about 500 lbs worth.

I'm not too surprised at the rear wheel locking, you are in a fairly low gear from a dead stop. I have to use the decomp lever on my Motobecanes because I lose too much in the centrifugal clutch to get the engine to turn. On the Batavus, with a starting clutch lever, lack of decomp does not seem to matter.

Ron

Ummm...About Push-Starting.

Reeperette /

Be careful...especially if yer handlebars are loose, and do NOT, whatsoever....stand/run close enough to the vehicle for the pedals to hit you in the ankle.

It hurts, a lot...believe it.

-R

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ooops again ... he never posted his bike type (at first), so i somehow assumed it was a minarelli. i guess i'm out of the loop here ... can't help w/ a pa50.

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Ron Brown /

Ree,

Fred has this covered:

1. Remove pedals and throw away.

2. Push start ped.

: )

Ron

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Ron Brown /

Miguel,

He NEVER posted his bike type, I think you must have had Minnarelli on the brain. : )

Btw, how is the Vespa?

Ron

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brian cincinnati /

I thought this post was going to be about pedals with blood on them. That would be pretty metal. Sorry to interrupt : ( good luck

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ron ... vespa is still down. after i finish grading some papers and a bit more other work ... today is a glorious day, so i'll see if i can get her started after i fix her carb problems (if that's what it is).

<snicker> Ask him.

Reeperette /

Fred was there when I learned the lesson that sparked that advice.

Push starting my Ex's Batavus and the handlebars folded, almost slamming my face into the top of the forks, and then catchin the pedal in the one good ankle I have (the other being metal) and cracking, but not breaking, the Tibia...not to mention it swelled up like hell.

Needless to say the drive home was 'interesting', thanks be fer cruise control.

If yer gonna push start, I'd reccommend removing the pedals too!, after that lil fiasco.

-R

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i pushing 200 in weight and i also need the pedals to ride it like a bike from one back road to another over a main road covered with cops. i don't drive it legally at this point and most cops are dicks.one stopped me for riding it like a bike on the side of the rode. i hit the ground with the side it broke ons pedal the other night so i think that loosened it and i finished it off.

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its a pa50. fred helped me with soem problems before, so i guess he remembered.

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is there anything displaced after the pedal shaft came out? i also need those pedals for somethiing to rest my feet on as i'm driving. is it possible to get a new shaft? i'll try to post a picture of the brake. it broke right on the inside of the crank and it's a pretty clean brake.maybe my friends dad (whos a damn good welder) can do some creative welding, now that i think of it. i can't get it road legal without pedals either. i need to get some other possible alternatives.

BaaaHaaaHaaHahahahahahahahaha!

Yeah... watch out for those loose handlebars!... lol !

Sorry if I am a dick about it... but I think pain is funny... even my own (later on).

I think we were having trouble with the starter clutch... and we came to the conclusion that push starting was the way to go... I did it once or twice... and the bike fired off for the first time... it worked good (push starting)... it was an old bike that hadn't been started in a long time... and there were many items that needed fixing... Like the handlebar clamps... We had already fiddled with them (but were missing a bolt)...

So then Ree tried it... got up to a pretty good speed... and then disaster... he went to jump on when the h-bars broke loose... and he whacked himself bad.. on the pedals maybe ??.... He handled it really good... and didn't even go down(I think).... but he had whacked himself... but good.

I always remember these things later and laugh... (Glad it wasn't me though!)

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Ron Brown /

I'm not laughing!

I'm not laughing!

I'm not laughing!

I'm not laughing!

I'm not laughing!

: ) : ) : )

Ron

It's Always funny later

Reeperette /

Really it is, and if one can't laugh at their own follies (or those of others) - then I'd say such people are wayyyy too uptight.

And that crowd prefers SUV's, not mopeds, heh.

-R

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I don't like or feel comfortable disagreeing with the likes of Fred and Ron,or Ree,so take this for what it's worth.BUT.If any `ped I have breaks,I fix it back `factory like',pedals and all.I'm a big fat boy(6'0",235lbs.),and I like to start the bike with pedals in place on the kickstand.So I would recommend you fix it to original specs..Maybe `EXPRESSLY MOPEDS' can help you out with the proper parts.I just don't like push-starting a `ped unless I am heading downhill or I have to.Just my 2 cents on the matter.

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