That is an awesomely good way of testing those suits!I have never thought of doing that.And I definitely want `waterproof'.I guess I'll be getting one of those.I don't have a full-face helmet,so I'll try the other type with the face shield,and tuck that skier neck protector down into the suit.THANKS! This may seem like a little thing to some of you southern boys,but us nawtheners appreciate it.(:>)